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Old 02-14-2009, 04:48 PM     Post subject: Whats the deal with the FLop!? #1 (permalink)  

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today was so lame, i had quad kings today pocket pair in my hand by!? someone with quad stinkin aces! he had pocket aces too!
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Old 02-14-2009, 04:52 PM #2 (permalink)  

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it happens.
it sucks, granted, but that's just a harsh example of varience
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Old 02-14-2009, 04:57 PM #3 (permalink)  
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We need a post describing the difference between the Beginners Circle and the Tilt Forum.
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Old 02-14-2009, 05:05 PM #5 (permalink)  

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haha ya its just a shame that i lost just about my hole bankroll (150) in that pot.. i got like no way how toget it back up there now lol
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Old 02-14-2009, 05:08 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Old 02-14-2009, 05:21 PM #8 (permalink)  
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We need a post describing the difference between the Beginners Circle and the Tilt Forum.
LOL @ this. Yeah, the KK hand I posted is kinda crossing the line from BC to the Tilt forum.
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The solution to getting 1 outered is a simple one. We just need to find the site that is the least rigged.
 
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Old 02-14-2009, 05:53 PM #9 (permalink)  
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haha ya its just a shame that i lost just about my hole bankroll (150) in that pot.. i got like no way how toget it back up there now lol
Ok, welcome to the forum. You just told us a whole shitload about how awful of a poker player you are in your 1st two posts.

Listed very, very carefully to what I'm about to tell you.

YOU SUCK AT POKER.

Now, embrace that you suck at poker. Rejoice in it. Give your self a high five, whatever. Because you're in the right place if you want to get better.

Read every article in the Beginner's Digest. And before you object, let me tell you that yes, everything in it does specifically apply to you. There is no area from which you are special or exempt.

Learn Bankroll management.
Learn ABC poker.
Learn how to formulate ranges.
Learn how to crush the micros and pwn noobs.

Then, and only then, should you move up in the ranks. Let your poker play and your bankroll determine what stakes you should be playing at.
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Old 02-14-2009, 06:47 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Old 02-14-2009, 07:33 PM #11 (permalink)  
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haha ya its just a shame that i lost just about my hole bankroll (150) in that pot.. i got like no way how toget it back up there now lol
You lost your whole bankroll with a hand that 99% of the time wins, and that no-one, ever in the history of poker has EVER folded. ever. It's never happened.

What does this tell you?

A) It tells you, you made the right decision getting all your money in the middle with quads, no matter what the outcome and

B) When you're playing with all your money on the table at the same time, it's an absolute recipe for disaster, and can only lead to misery.

BR management will lead you to the promised land, or at least it'll let you keep playing poker when all those donkeys and fishes keep calling your bluffs!
The older I get, the more I start wondering; Just what in the hell is going on here?
 
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Old 02-14-2009, 08:44 PM #12 (permalink)  

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alot of things tat happe online, would never happen in real life..
ive seen some beats that i thought werent possible on pokerstars. It just makes you sit there for a minute and think... Wow
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It just makes you sit there for a minute and think... Wow
Hmm... I know what you mean.

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Old 02-14-2009, 09:24 PM #14 (permalink)  

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you play the flop , this its your hand
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Old 02-14-2009, 10:33 PM #15 (permalink)  
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alot of things tat happe online, would never happen in real life..
ive seen some beats that i thought werent possible on pokerstars. It just makes you sit there for a minute and think... Wow
Actually they are possible. You see when your ahead by 96% or whatever, that 4% will still happen some of the time.
Whenever you have your opponent drawing dead and your 100% to win do you ever see yourself lose?

That's what I thought.
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Old 02-14-2009, 10:42 PM #16 (permalink)  
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If something has a 5% chance or less of happening, it therefore has a 0% chance of happening. Consequently if it ever happens, shit is rigged.
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Old 02-14-2009, 10:43 PM #17 (permalink)  
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Angry Donk Theorm:

If something had a 5% chance or less of happening, it therefore has a 0% chance of happening. Consequently if it ever happens, shit is rigged.
ahahaha yesss, Please copyright that if you didn't get it from somewhere else
"Once we reach a certain level of mastery, we see there are higher levels and challenges. If we are disciplined and patient, we proceed. At each higher level, new pleasures and insights await us--ones not even suspected when we started out. We can take this as far as we want--in any human activity there is always a higher level to which we can aspire."

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Old 02-14-2009, 10:45 PM #18 (permalink)  
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Angry Donk Theorem:

If something has a 5% chance or less of happening, it therefore has a 0% chance of happening. Consequently if it ever happens, shit is rigged.
Thanks for the new sig, hope you don't mind that I corrected the spelling :P
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Old 02-15-2009, 03:34 AM #20 (permalink)  
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To answer the original question, it works as follows:

The deal with the flop is you will miss it.

If you hit it, someone else will hit it better.

If you have a high pocket pair, an ace will hit on the flop.

If you have pocket aces, someone will hit 2 pair.

And if you somehow get through all that and end up ahead on the flop...

Someone will call your bet with bad odds and suck out on the turn or the river.

Any more questions?
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