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chewbaka
Old 12-09-2005, 05:32 PM     Post subject: what would you have done with these hands? #1 (permalink)  
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6-player ring game .10/.20 NL

I have As Js (3players)

Flop came 9s 10s 3c

> Dealing the turn(7s)
> chewbaka checked
> klucken bet for $1.20
> chewbaka raised for $2.40
> klucken called for $1.20
> Dealing the river(9c)
> chewbaka bet for $4.60
> klucken raised for $18.40
> chewbaka went all-in for $9
> Extra chips returned to klucken, $4.80
> klucken shows Four of a Kind, Nines
(9s9c9h9d10s)
> klucken wins $34.50 with Four of a Kind, Nines
> chewbaka cannot enter this game because he/she is out of money


HAND # 2

Hole cards KsKd

> Game # 376,637,050 starting.
> Dealing Hole Cards
> jensa021 called for $0.20
> Vidliv raised for $0.80
> grizen folded
> big_jutt folded
> wizlaman folded
> PlentyGood folded
> Kasady folded
> chewbaka raised for $1.40
> stupidgal raised for $1.90
> TICK88 folded
> jensa021 folded
> Vidliv raised for $4.80
> chewbaka raised for $7.80
> stupidgal called for $7.20
> Vidliv called for $3.60
> Dealing the Flop(2c9cQs)
> stupidgal checked
> Vidliv went all-in for $10.60
> chewbaka went all-in for $9.30
> stupidgal went all-in for $4.66
> Extra chips returned to Vidliv, $1.30
> Dealing the turn(7d)
> Dealing the river(6d)
> Vidliv shows Three of a Kind, Queens
(QsQcQd9c7d)
> stupidgal shows a high card, Ace
(AcKdQs9c7d)
Vidliv wins $48.91 with Three of a Kind, Queens

Any comments please?
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EricE
Old 12-09-2005, 05:43 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: nothing wrong here. No way you can put him on 99. Its fine. The way he bet Id expect him to have a lower flush.
Id bet the flop unless you expect him to raise you. I’d like to establish that I like my hand before the flush hits. ½ pot.

Hand 2: what are your hole cards. Edit it so we can see them.
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chewbaka
Old 12-09-2005, 05:54 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I had KK... original post edited.. sorry this is my first time
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Old 12-09-2005, 06:06 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Hand 2: tough one. I have seen people go AI on just a nut flush draw or AcQc which you beat. Any set could do this and any two pair.
Personaly since you don’t hold the Kc which could save you with backdoor flush, I fold the flop.

BTW, these go in the Hand History section.
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Old 12-09-2005, 06:07 PM #5 (permalink)  
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Put this in hand histories forum.

Both hands are fine. Nothing you can do except maybe make your last reraise preflop with KK much higher to make sure it's heads up. Maybe all-in. KK is great but it doesn't hold up well with multiple players seeing the flop. I guess these guys would be all-in regardless but in the future.
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Old 12-09-2005, 06:14 PM #6 (permalink)  
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i may be slightly skewed by seeing results (and watching someone lose a lot of money with the 'nut' flush on a paired board reccently) but i think in hand 1 if you bet less (maybe 2/3 pot) you can easily fold to the raise on the river. if my math is right, it looks like you basically bet the pot when the board paired. his play on the turn looks like he was on a draw, and then his push on the river makes it look like he hit. given your bet size, i would be inclined to call the push, but betting less may allow you to fold. this (or something like this) was said somewhere recently in a post and it really stuck with me: "do you really think he didnt see the flush"
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Old 12-09-2005, 06:26 PM #7 (permalink)  
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BTW, in the future, leave out the results entirely. They do skew the comments people give you.
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Old 12-09-2005, 08:37 PM #8 (permalink)  
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What was the preflop action like in the first hand? Since it's six max I think your play is fine. If it were full table I'd be more concerned about being up against a boat.

For the 2nd hand, I really don't like your small reraises. (chewbaka raised for $7.80) when the action gets back to you pop it up to $14-15. YOU DON'T WANT THIS TO GO 3-WAY TO THE FLOP. ISOLATE!!! Then the rest of the hand plays itself.
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Old 12-09-2005, 08:52 PM #9 (permalink)  
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OH, 6 handed HHs go here: Short-handed Hold'em Ring
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Old 12-09-2005, 09:03 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 Hand2. Get it all in preflop
After that its a simple outdraw.
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chewbaka
Old 12-10-2005, 02:46 AM #11 (permalink)  
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On Hand # 1 -

Sorry didnt have the complete hand history.. however I remember not raising big enough preflop. I think that's my only bad play... but then again should I? I had A7suited which I think is a marginal hand but not optimal...

I can recall raising 2xBB preflop.. I was UTG the villain was Button.

I remembered betting $.60 postflop, MP folded and the villain called (to slow play? I think he wouldnt as there were 2 spades on the board).

With regard to not raising big enough on the turn ... I think he would have pushed regardless of my play on turn anyway... is it just bad beat?

On Hand # 2

Bad play.... Id go with Miffed's play to push pre-flop. Only an AA have me beat. I was a little hesitant coz all 3 players were trying to push.. AA, AK is very likely.

Note: Noticed how the player with AK went all in with us? She's the remora clinging on to the shark
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