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Bugeye

03-14-2006, 02:47 AM Post subject: What would have been the right play?

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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For a $0.5/1.0 game I won a lot of money on this hand. But in hindsight I think I probably should have bailed earlier in the hand. I had a pretty good straight draw going. There were a lot of chips in the pot (the pot odds were good) but a big part of that was how aggressive I was. I'm a newbie to poker and would appreciate some advice on how I played this hand. It sounds strange, but I'm feeling queasy about thewin. It's like I wasn't good, but just lucky instead. Advice would be welcome.

***** Hand History for Game 3733107196 *****
$0.50/$1 Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 13, 14:38:33 ET 2006
Table Money Line (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Quality19xx ( $18.50 )
Seat 2: SNIFMYACE ( $130.30 )
Seat 3: Robshev ( $18.88 )
Seat 4: cyclops1066 ( $46.57 )
Seat 5: Ahahaha30 ( $82.37 )
Seat 8: cdr8048 ( $24.87 )
Seat 10: BugeyeBug ( $24.25 )
Seat 7: volksen ( $24.25 )
Seat 6: Sunflower691 ( $25 )
Seat 9: DUKDUK_DEUCE ( $25 )
Robshev posts small blind [$0.25].
cyclops1066 posts big blind [$0.50].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to BugeyeBug [ Jd Ts ]
Ahahaha30 folds.
volksen folds.
BugeyeBug raises [$1].
Quality19xx raises [$1.50].
SNIFMYACE folds.
Robshev folds.
cyclops1066 raises [$1.50].
BugeyeBug calls [$1].
Quality19xx calls [$0.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8h, 3c, 9s ]
cyclops1066 bets [$0.50].
BugeyeBug raises [$1].
Quality19xx raises [$1.50].
cyclops1066 raises [$1.50].
BugeyeBug calls [$1].
Quality19xx calls [$0.50].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9d ]
cyclops1066 bets [$1].
BugeyeBug calls [$1].
Quality19xx raises [$2].
cyclops1066 calls [$1].
BugeyeBug calls [$1].
** Dealing River ** [ Qs ]
cyclops1066 checks.
BugeyeBug bets [$1].
Quality19xx calls [$1].
cyclops1066 calls [$1].
BugeyeBug shows [ Jd, Ts ] a straight, eight to queen.
Quality19xx doesn't show [ Kd, Kh ] two pairs, kings and nines.
cyclops1066 doesn't show [ Ad, As ] two pairs, aces and nines.
BugeyeBug wins $20.25 from the main pot with a straight, eight to queen.

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eecard

03-14-2006, 03:49 AM

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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I'm kind of a noob, but I'll take a shot at this.

Personally, I'm folding JTo from early position. It is not that strong of a hand, and is easily dominated. Second of all, if you decide to open with JTo make it a sizeable raise- do not min raise.

On the flop, I dont mind raising the nut straight draw against this many potential callers, but if you do make it more than $1. Im thinking at the very least $2.

The turn is a scary card, since if someone may have hit a full house, but I think this would be an odd line for a set since I dont think many people would reraise or cold call with 99, 88, or 33.

Okay, on the river you need to bet more than $1. The pot is around $17 and a $1 bet into a $17 pot acomplishes very little. Personally, I would bet around $8-$10 here and possibly fold to an AI push.

drtofu66

03-14-2006, 04:37 AM

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Join Date: Apr 2005

Posts: 595

I'll leave it for the experts to critique your play-- no doubt you'll be told "fold preflop". Bugeye: this is a limit hand. That's why the bet on the river was only $1.

For those who prefer hands that are converted:

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (7 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J

, T

.
2 folds, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, 2 folds, BB caps, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) 8

, 3

, 9

(3 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, CO 3-bets, BB caps, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: (12.25 BB) 9

(3 players)
BB bets, Hero calls, CO raises, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (18.25 BB) Q

(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, BB calls.

Final Pot: 21.25 BB

Results in white below:
BB has Ad As (two pair, aces and nines).
Hero has Jd Ts (straight, queen high).
CO has Kd Kh (two pair, kings and nines).
Outcome: Hero wins 21.25 BB.

Greedo017

03-14-2006, 04:50 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eecard

Personally, I'm folding JTo from any position.

fyp. jto is trash, don't raise, don't call a reraise, don't call two reraises. don't raise the flop, don't call two more bets. the end.

small disclaimer, i've only played like 5k limit hands

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J_Kincaid

03-14-2006, 07:00 AM

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Location: Halifax, Canada

Posts: 4

I'm also pretty noobish, but I agree with ya about your feeling more lucky than good. It was a tempting draw but the odds were definately against you if you realized what they were packing. If it was a NL game (like I think eecard thought it was) than they would have made the pots odds unprofitable with the AA,KK for sure. So congrats on the win, but I don't know if keeping that J10 in high regards is the best long term move.

If you beat their AA,KK with maybe 55 and a 5 on the river you'd have more to worry about.

I don't think this was too helpful. Maybe someone experienced could be more expressive.

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