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Rage2100
Old 05-15-2009, 11:50 AM     Post subject: What the heck is this? #1 (permalink)  
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This is one of the strangest hands I've ever played. What do they both limp and call my raises twice with? What do I do now on the turn? UTG+1 had been around for about 20 hands and seemed pretty bad, calling most raises. BB had only just joined the table.


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UTG: ($3.94)
UTG+1: ($10.69)
CO: ($0.68)
Hero: ($19.32)
SB: ($26.64)
BB: ($10.00)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A , Q .
UTG calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.60, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.85) A , T , 7 (3 players)
BB bets $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $1.20, BB calls $1.10, UTG+1 calls $1.10

Turn: ($5.45) 3 (3 players)
BB bets $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, Hero ??
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Old 05-15-2009, 11:56 AM #2 (permalink)  
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I'd keep 50-60% potting until I was given a reason not to. My reasoning being that they both appear to be retarded.
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imagine the $.10 is a check and do what you would do if the guy checked
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Old 05-15-2009, 01:44 PM #4 (permalink)  
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I'd keep 50-60% potting until I was given a reason not to. My reasoning being that they both appear to be retarded.
utg+1 overcalling is a potential reason not to

op we need reads!
 
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Old 05-15-2009, 01:48 PM #5 (permalink)  
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I'd keep 50-60% potting until I was given a reason not to. My reasoning being that they both appear to be retarded.
utg+1 overcalling is a potential reason not to

op we need reads!
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UTG+1 had been around for about 20 hands and seemed pretty bad, calling most raises. BB had only just joined the table.
UTG+1 doesn't scare me if he's that bad.
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Old 05-15-2009, 01:59 PM #6 (permalink)  

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If it worries you, check/call it down. But I'd take Iopq's advice and ignore the silly 0.10 bet and consider it a check.
Then after the hand, I'd make some notes on both of them.
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Old 05-15-2009, 02:51 PM #7 (permalink)  
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Weak players often putting on these 'stopping' bets when they have a FD, SD or one pair. I raise 2/3rds pot.
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Old 05-15-2009, 03:32 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Weak players often putting on these 'stopping' bets when they have a FD, SD or one pair. I raise 2/3rds pot.
Yes, some of the weaker players will do this. Some will also do this type of thing with hands like sets and two pair though.

Doesn't the fact that two opponents have called my raises make any difference to the way I play the turn?
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Old 05-15-2009, 03:34 PM #9 (permalink)  
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If you're getting alarm bells then by all means slow down. Going on your own words that the overcaller is a calltard I wouldn't be worried though.
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Old 05-15-2009, 03:37 PM #10 (permalink)  
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If you're getting alarm bells then by all means slow down. Going on your own words that the overcaller is a calltard I wouldn't be worried though.
I agree. Plenty of opps will be floating the flop bet hoping to complete a hand. I will probably tread carefully if my 2/3 pot-sized bet gets called on the turn.
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Old 05-15-2009, 08:54 PM #11 (permalink)  
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If you don't know what his bet means just ignore it and do what you were going to do anyway with the extra money in the pot.
 
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Old 05-15-2009, 09:51 PM #12 (permalink)  
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The minbet is still one of the oddest things for me to deal with. Depending on the opponent it can be extremely weak, extremely strong, or extremely medium.

Do people ever do this on purpose with the hopes of either slowing you down or poking you into making a big raise?
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Old 05-15-2009, 10:48 PM #13 (permalink)  
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The minbet is still one of the oddest things for me to deal with. Depending on the opponent it can be extremely weak, extremely strong, or extremely medium.

Do people ever do this on purpose with the hopes of either slowing you down or poking you into making a big raise?
The ones that do have EXACTLY that purpose. Most of the times it is not inducing a raise, it is usually weak.
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