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Old 01-28-2006, 05:19 PM     Post subject: What does TAG look like in Poker Tracker #1 (permalink)  
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I'm playing NL10. I'm trying to find situations and reads to be more aggressive and wondering what it will look like in the stats.

Current (aprox):
Hands =2600
BB/100 = 20
VP$IP = 25
PF Raise = 6
Agg Factor Flop = 1.36
Agg Factor Turn = 1.29
River = .96

Poker Tracker says I'm Tight-Aggressive / Passive. What's a good line?
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Old 01-28-2006, 05:29 PM     Post subject: Re: What does TAG look like in [url=http://www.flopturnriver #2 (permalink)  
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What's a good line?
Winning money. Cash money fo life.

Are you winning money?
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Old 01-28-2006, 07:12 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I picked up poker tracker in early December after reading these forums. Net $57 December. Up $77 so far this month. Thinking of moving up to NL25 soon but a little more experience at NL10 probably wouldn't hurt.

Would appreciate any thoughts on the differences between 10 and 25 NL?
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Old 01-28-2006, 07:37 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Would appreciate any thoughts on the differences between 10 and 25 NL?
About $15
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Old 01-28-2006, 08:11 PM #5 (permalink)  
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^ good answer.
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Old 01-28-2006, 11:50 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I'm Tight-Aggressive / Passive. What's a good line?
If you can make people bet for you and make you money, then your line is good. But if the table is passive, and you are passive, then you lose out on money. If you are adjusting to tables and making money, then good line.
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Old 01-29-2006, 06:36 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Move up ASAP. 10 buy-ins is fine.
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Old 01-30-2006, 02:26 AM #8 (permalink)  
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I picked up poker tracker in early December after reading these forums. Net $57 December. Up $77 so far this month. Thinking of moving up to NL25 soon but a little more experience at NL10 probably wouldn't hurt.

Would appreciate any thoughts on the differences between 10 and 25 NL?

Hi

i deposited to poker one day ago, deposited only 70 $, not that much, ive only played playmoney for a few months, read a few books, i know playmoney gives so lil exp, but..
after about 5 hours of playing on the 0.25 and 0.50 and also like a few hands on the 0.50 / 1 i was up to a total of 242.15 $ in about 6hours.

I think the competition si fairly easy, cause i usually read my opponent right, not just saying this , its true, sometimes i dont read them right to.

The only losses i got was like the blinds, some little 5 $ a couple of times and once a 15 $, and the last summary u see was the biggest i lost.

my name is back2fish there

Heres some good pots i took down yesterday..

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12 | Rake $0.55
Board [4c Tc Kd 6s 7s]
Seat 3: detroitTIMMY (small blind) showed [8s Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: back2fish (big blind) showed [Kh Jc] and won ($11.45) with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: Saleem folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: sheldon4 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)


*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12 | Rake $0.55
Board [Qd 8c 6d]
Seat 2: #1AUTIGERS#1 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: JFoxxy2442 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Yeek folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Gus73 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: back2fish (button) collected ($11.45)
Seat 9: LordRavenAk (small blind) folded on the Flop


*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $41 | Rake $2
Board [Ah 5h 6h 7s Ks]
Seat 1: hawk1368 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: wowsaveit folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: PFS Cheese (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: back2fish (small blind) showed [Kh 4h] and won ($39) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 5: mmkaw650 (big blind) mucked [Th Qh]
Seat 6: BELL765 folded on the River


*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $13 | Rake $0.60
Board [9s 3s Qh 4d]
Seat 1: hawk1368 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: wowsaveit (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: PFS Cheese folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: back2fish collected ($12.40)
Seat 5: AzNZiGZAG folded on the Turn
Seat 6: BELL765 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)ยจ


*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21 | Rake $1
Board [2h 3c Ts 5d Ac]
Seat 1: hawk1368 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: wowsaveit (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: PFS Cheese (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 4: back2fish (big blind) collected ($20)
Seat 5: AzNZiGZAG folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: BELL765 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10 | Rake $0.50
Board [2h 3d Jh]
Seat 5: iamflushed (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: back2fish (button) (big blind) collected ($9.50)

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $7 | Rake $0.30
Board [6s 4s 8c Jd Th]
Seat 1: Dacak89 (small blind) showed [3c 7s] and lost with high card Jack
Seat 4: katiangel23 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: back2fish (button) showed [As 5s] and won ($6.70) with high card Ace


*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9 | Rake $0.40
Board [4s 4c Jd 7s 5s]
Seat 1: MegaShoulder folded on the River
Seat 3: Becca62384 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: back2fish (small blind) collected ($8.60)
Seat 5: Danny7711 (big blind) folded on the Turn


THIS ONE BELOW WAS 2/4

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $40 | Rake $1.90
Board [5d Qc 3d 4d 2h]
Seat 2: back2fish collected ($38.10)
Seat 3: buttertoast (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Jugular (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: icytundra (big blind) folded on the River

BACK TO 0.25 0.50 and 0.50 and 1

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $32 | Rake $0
Seat 2: back2fish (small blind) collected ($32)
Seat 3: buttertoast (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: KiD[ReD] folded before Flop
Seat 5: icytundra (button) folded before Flop

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $38 | Rake $1.85
Board [4c 6c Kd 8d 3s]
Seat 1: milo21 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: sunkist23 folded before Flop
Seat 5: Sheleric (button) mucked [Qs Ah]
Seat 6: back2fish (small blind) showed [Ks Qc] and won ($36.15) with a pair of Kings

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $46.50 | Rake $1
Board [7s 8c Ad Kd 8s]
Seat 1: milo21 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: sunkist23 (big blind) mucked [3h 3c]
Seat 6: back2fish (button) showed [Ac Ah] and won ($45.50) with a full house, Aces full of Eights

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $52 | Rake $2.50
Board [9c 3c 9h Ks]
Seat 1: milo21 (small blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 2: Torger (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 3: sunkist23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: rebelstar18 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Morsey Poo folded on the Flop
Seat 6: back2fish (button) collected ($49.50)


*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21 | Rake $1.05
Board [8s Ad Jd]
Seat 1: milo21 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Torger (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: mariobigmac (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: back2fish collected ($19.95)

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $50 | Rake $1
Board [Ks 3h 2c Ac 3s]
Seat 1: marioluigi (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: xBULLETTSx (small blind) mucked [Kh As]
Seat 4: back2fish (big blind) showed [5c 4d] and won ($49) with a straight, Ace to Five

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $6 | Rake $0.25
Board [2d 7c Kh Jc Kc]
Seat 1: masse10 folded on the Turn
Seat 3: xBULLETTSx (button) mucked [4d 4h]
Seat 4: back2fish (small blind) showed [9s Jh] and won ($5.75) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
Seat 5: IsraeliDF (big blind) folded on the Turn

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21 | Rake $1
Board [2d 6h As Kd 9d]
Seat 5: Atlas King (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: EZZIA (small blind) showed [2s 3s] and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 7: back2fish (big blind) showed [Ah 7c] and won ($20) with a pair of Aces

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $16 | Rake $0.75
Board [8d Jc 9s Qs 2h]
Seat 4: MILF1976 (button) folded on the River
Seat 5: Atlas King (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: back2fish (big blind) collected ($15.25)

*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $23.80 | Rake $1
Board [4h 9c 9h 4d 7h]
Seat 4: MILF1976 (button) (big blind) mucked [2c 7d]
Seat 7: back2fish (small blind) showed [9s 6s] and won ($22.80) with a full house, Nines full of Fours



THIS IS WHERE I MADE A MISTAKE..

I FELT LIKE I WAS WINNING SO GOOD AT THOSE TABLES, SO I TRIED 2/4 WHICH WAS AN IDIOTICAL MISTAKE.. I LOST ALOT THERE ON A HAND WHERE I READ HIM FOR NONE OF THE PAIRS ON BOARD, BUT I WAS TIRED AND DIDNT THINK OF A POCKET PAIR.
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $260.30 | Rake $2
Board [Td 3d 6s 3h 7h]
Seat 1: Mx225 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: back2fish showed [9d 9s] and lost with two pair, Nines and Threes
Seat 3: buttertoast folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: KiD[ReD] (button) showed [Ks Kh] and won ($258.30) with two pair, Kings and Threes
Seat 5: icytundra (small blind) folded before Flop
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Old 01-30-2006, 02:37 AM #9 (permalink)  
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i recon that i can earn.. on my next deposit with about 100 $.. if i dont go to 2/4 until i have like 1000 $ +

if i just stay on 0.25 / 0.50 and 0.50 / 1 that are very easy to me.. and i play about 4 - 6 hours a day id earn... hm....

guaranteed 50+ $ a day, usually more, this must be a bad beat day.

but mostly 100 $ a day...i mean i took down atleast 5 pots on 40 + yesterday and i played a total of 6 hours max.

at start im trying to play 7 days a week, 4 - 6 hours a day, cause im the kinda person who can handle that time.

so 7 days x 100 $ is 700 $.

thats an average of 700 $ / week, on a very bad day or possibly a little playing its 350 $ a week.

average each month is 2800.. less a month would be 1400 - 2800..

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i recon that i can earn.. on my next deposit with about 100 $.. if i dont go to 2/4 until i have like 1000 $ +

if i just stay on 0.25 / 0.50 and 0.50 / 1 that are very easy to me.. and i play about 4 - 6 hours a day id earn... hm....

guaranteed 50+ $ a day, usually more, this must be a bad beat day.

but mostly 100 $ a day...i mean i took down atleast 5 pots on 40 + yesterday and i played a total of 6 hours max.

at start im trying to play 7 days a week, 4 - 6 hours a day, cause im the kinda person who can handle that time.

so 7 days x 100 $ is 700 $.

thats an average of 700 $ / week, on a very bad day or possibly a little playing its 350 $ a week.

average each month is 2800.. less a month would be 1400 - 2800..

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Old 01-30-2006, 04:18 AM #12 (permalink)  

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betneer, you played for one day, and you already think you can make $100 a day. I think you've just successfully completed the Newbie Circle of Death in 24 hours. Anyways, anyone can get lucky and have a really good session (what happened to you). Read the stickes in the beginner's section, they'll help you. Especially BR management. I've been in your situation before, I thought I was the shit cause I turned $200 into $1800 in a week, then I decided to play 5/10 and lost every penny. Currently I am bankrolled for $100NL, but I will play $200 or $400NL if I see a soft table. This is not recommended if you are new. I suggest starting from the bottom and working your way up.

I know it sounds like I'm contradicting myself when I say I'll play $200/$400NL when I'm only rolled for $100NL. But, I have a full time job. So dropping $400 in one hand won't affect my financial responsibilties. Will it suck? of course, but I won't lose any sleep over it. This is something I do very rarely. I will only do it if I find a SOFT table.

Here's an example of a SOFT table. I have position on Villian every hand except the small blind.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button ($311.60)
SB ($359)
BB ($493.20)
IOS ($415.40)
MP ($429.80)
CO ($464.05)

Preflop: IOS is UTG with Q, J.
IOS raises to $16, 1 fold, CO calls $16, 2 folds, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($50) Q, T, 6 (3 players)
BB checks, IOS bets $49, CO folds, BB calls $49.

Turn: ($148) K (2 players)
BB checks, IOS checks.

River: ($148) 7 (2 players)
BB checks, IOS checks.

Final Pot: $148

Results in white below:
BB has Th 2h (one pair, tens).
IOS has Qc Js (one pair, queens).
Outcome: IOS wins $148.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB ($160)
UTG ($312)
MP ($762.80)
IOS ($525.90)
Button ($439.80)
SB ($99.50)

Preflop: IOS is CO with 9, J.
UTG raises to $12, MP calls $12, IOS calls $12, 3 folds.

Flop: ($42) A, J, 3 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP bets $4, IOS calls $4, UTG raises to $12, MP calls $8, IOS calls $8.

Turn: ($78) 9 (3 players)
UTG bets $20, MP folds, IOS calls $20.

River: ($118) 2 (2 players)
UTG bets $72, IOS calls $72.

Final Pot: $262

Results in white below:
UTG has 5c Ah (one pair, aces).
IOS has 9c Jc (two pair, jacks and nines).
Outcome: IOS wins $262.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Button ($481)
SB ($689.90)
IOS ($660.40)
UTG ($425.80)
MP ($287.50)

Preflop: IOS is BB with Q, Q.
2 folds, Button raises to $16, SB calls $14, IOS raises to $40, Button calls $24, SB calls $24.

Flop: ($120) 5, 2, 3 (3 players)
SB checks, IOS bets $120, Button folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: $240

Results in white below:
No showdown. IOS wins $240.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

MP ($441)
Button ($649.90)
IOS ($738.40)
BB ($425.80)
UTG ($287.50)

Preflop: IOS is SB with A, K.
2 folds, Button raises to $16, IOS calls $14, 1 fold.

Flop: ($36) Q, 7, T (2 players)
IOS checks, Button bets $8, IOS calls $8.

Turn: ($52) J (2 players)
IOS bets $30, Button raises to $68, IOS raises to $168, Button calls $100.

River: ($388) 5 (2 players)
IOS bets $240, Button calls $240.

Final Pot: $868

Results in white below:
Button has As Qc (one pair, queens).
IOS has Ad Kh (straight, ace high).
Outcome: IOS wins $868.

After that hand, the villian left. Seeing that the table was no longer SOFT, I left too.
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Old 01-30-2006, 05:39 AM #13 (permalink)  
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sorry idiots, i know i can make 50 $ - 100 $ a day.. 1400 - 2800 a month.. are you just on such low limits that dont exist or do u loose like hell?

dam idiots, i don need poker seesions for grown ups that play nl 10 buy in.. thats like 1/4 of a good pot for me

anyway ure right yesterday was luck...
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sorry idiots, i know i can make 50 $ - 100 $ a day.. 1400 - 2800 a month.. are you just on such low limits that dont exist or do u loose like hell?

dam idiots, i don need poker seesions for grown ups that play nl 10 buy in.. thats like 1/4 of a good pot for me

anyway ure right yesterday was luck...
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i recon that i can earn.. on my next deposit with about 100 $.. if i dont go to 2/4 until i have like 1000 $ +

if i just stay on 0.25 / 0.50 and 0.50 / 1 that are very easy to me.. and i play about 4 - 6 hours a day id earn... hm....

guaranteed 50+ $ a day, usually more, this must be a bad beat day.

but mostly 100 $ a day...i mean i took down atleast 5 pots on 40 + yesterday and i played a total of 6 hours max.

at start im trying to play 7 days a week, 4 - 6 hours a day, cause im the kinda person who can handle that time.

so 7 days x 100 $ is 700 $.

thats an average of 700 $ / week, on a very bad day or possibly a little playing its 350 $ a week.

average each month is 2800.. less a month would be 1400 - 2800..

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the first time i posted, i didn't wanna call him ignorant...

i still don't. can't tap the aquarium!
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thats true i just wanted to show how well i did after reading books and still got some exp from playmoney.. anyway i am for real lol, and 50 $ a day is easy to make, if u have about 70 $ or more, trust me, if u cant me 50 $ a day on 0.50 / 1 then somethings wrong... eve 100 $ can be average or even more
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thats true i just wanted to show how well i did after reading books and still got some exp from playmoney.. anyway i am for real lol, and 50 $ a day is easy to make, if u have about 70 $ or more, trust me, if u cant me 50 $ a day on 0.50 / 1 then somethings wrong... eve 100 $ can be average or even more
No ones saying it can't be done, this week I made $1K+ but in the first week of Jan I lost over $2K all at NL100/200. It's just not as easy as you think. Be prepared for big swings. You need at least $1000 to play 100NL because there will be periods where every good hand gets cracked and every bluff called, it happens to EVERYONE. If you dont enough $$ to back you up then, if you are serious about poker, you need build up on the lower limits until you are ready. You might even pick up a few tricks, especially if you keep reading and posting HH's here.
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i know, well i know i need more to play it but im tight aggresive and got at making traps, thats hows i took down most pots so far.
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i know, well i know i need more to play it but im tight aggresive and got at making traps, thats hows i took down most pots so far.
My favorite trap is to bet hard.
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My favorite trap is to bet hard.
But successfully donkbetting into an overly aggro opponent is so much more stylish ...
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We will not support your pocket pair aggression.
 
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sorry idiots, i know i can make 50 $ - 100 $ a day.. 1400 - 2800 a month.. are you just on such low limits that dont exist or do u loose like hell?

dam idiots, i don need poker seesions for grown ups that play nl 10 buy in.. thats like 1/4 of a good pot for me

anyway ure right yesterday was luck...
too funny

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1. don't call people from FTR idiots who are only trying to help you.

2. don't over-estimate your poker playing ability. you sound pretty bad. no disrespect intended.

3. poker is a game of winning money, not masculinity.
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dam idiots, i don need poker seesions for grown ups that play nl 10 buy in.. thats like 1/4 of a good pot for me
quoted in case somebody didnt realize where that came from.

4. playing 2/4NL on a 1000 roll is suicide. Even if you play perfectly, it's very likely you lose that 'roll unless you have a lot of luck.

5. try to learn. you seem pretty new to the poker world. trying to calculate your average daily income after playing such a short period of time is, like another poster implied, ignorant. First step is to become a solid, consistent winning player.
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 these are my pokerstars stats for my current NL100 session that I'm playing right now. I've been playing a pretty solid Tagg for a while. Both hands lost at showdown were small pots with a lot of checking and not much betting.

During current Hold'em session you were dealt 520 hands and saw flop:
- 31 out of 60 times while in big blind (51%)
- 14 out of 63 times while in small blind (22%)
- 38 out of 397 times in other positions (9%)
- a total of 83 out of 520 (15%)
Pots won at showdown - 12 of 14 (85%)
Pots won without showdown - 47
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Lukie, are you a multitabling nutpeddler?

If so, how do you manage to play beyond simple setfarming/nutpeddling? I got the impression that setfarming is a less fruitful at limits beyond 25NL.
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 15% seems a little low more of a rock. I am around 20-23% and it seems to be working. Still get involved in some pots I shouldn't be in but over all I like that number.

Also what is your PFR%? Mine is around 5% seems a little low but still not comfortable playing marginal hand for big pots.
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yeah well today i deposited 50 $ again to see if i only was having luck.

i deposited at midnight and by an hour later i now have 93.75 $ just playing 0.25 / 0.50.. took 20 $ of 2 people from the same table by trapping with a pair.
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Lukie, are you a multitabling nutpeddler?

If so, how do you manage to play beyond simple setfarming/nutpeddling? I got the impression that setfarming is a less fruitful at limits beyond 25NL.
Well, a LOT of my raises preflop were just winning the blinds. Hencse the 47? pots won without showdown.

Like anyone who has played with me a considerable amount, sometimes I can play like a rock, and others like a complete lagg. Today I would have classified myself as a standard tagg. I was up 2 buyins in 2 hours of play so I must have been doing something right.

For the person who asked.. my PFR at 100NL full ring has hovered at around 8% for quite some time now.
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well thats cool

im at 108.15 $ now..
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i earn like 85 blinds an hour lol :S

normal from a poker book i read it said, a good player should earn about 20 BBs an hour,
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anyway where can i get one of these stats program that keeps track how good i played each day ... with those green flame stats... would be cool to see what i earn over a week

2 night now.. played about 2,5 hours... earned about 60 $.

if i play 4 hours a day i can earn 50 - 100 a day, why did u guys say its not possible lol
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anyway where can i get one of these stats program that keeps track how good i played each day ... with those green flame stats... would be cool to see what i earn over a week

2 night now.. played about 2,5 hours... earned about 60 $.

if i play 4 hours a day i can earn 50 - 100 a day, why did u guys say its not possible lol
You still are not using proper bankroll management.
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Betneer: try Poker Tracker or Pokeroffice (never used pokeroffice before but I believe it is a proggie that compiles stats on your play). Poker Tracker is excellent; it is shareware however which requires you to pay $55 if you want to build a DB larger than 1000 hands played.

Nobody said that earning $50-100/d (4h/ day) is impossible. However, it is impossible to sustain 85BB/h unless you're seriously multitabling. I don't think I've seen anyone who has posted stats here report a long-term winrate of more than maybe 12-15 BB/h on NL with possible exception of the penny tables.

Nothing we say will change your perception, so if you maintain this winrate (which you almost certainly won't, I'm sorry to say), all the power to you. Just remember that poker is a long-term game - and trapping with just a pair is very very dangerous.

That is all.

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ok guys long time ago i checked this thread, i now realized you need like 200 $ or more for a proper bankroll on 0.25 / 0.25... a lil more for .5 / 1;

anyway, i started with 50 $ 2 days ago, im JUST playing 10$, 50$ sit and go's with 4 players in each.

im now on a total of 414.16$, means im + 366$ or around there..

just a tip to everyone, dont start playing low limit cash games, play sit and go's, ive won about 85 % of all ive been in

probably earned like 70 $ the first day then all the rest this day,
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I'm feeling a bit sexually attracted to betneer right now.
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took 20 $ of 2 people from the same table by trapping with a pair.
I trapped a guy with A high last night. "Brass balls and brain's brawn."

This has to be a joke. Come on Fnord, show your face. OK, maybe it is Triptanes or IowaSkinsFan. Tyson is that you?
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Funny thread.
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ok guys long time ago i checked this thread, i now realized you need like 200 $ or more for a proper bankroll on 0.25 / 0.25... a lil more for .5 / 1;

anyway, i started with 50 $ 2 days ago, im JUST playing 10$, 50$ sit and go's with 4 players in each.

im now on a total of 414.16$, means im + 366$ or around there..

just a tip to everyone, dont start playing low limit cash games, play sit and go's, ive won about 85 % of all ive been in

probably earned like 70 $ the first day then all the rest this day,
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well, ok sorry just trying to prove to you 100 $ is little for a day

im now up to 603.15$ total
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read this guy for a king, been watching him and the other ones for half an hour before sitting in, they dont seem to care if they loose...

anyway if another spade had come i wouldnt probably call a big bet, i read him right i guess

he couldnt think i had a flush, i semubluffed 4 to flush on flop and continued betting
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 um...that's your entire bankroll on the table?



 
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where should we set the over/under for him busting his roll completely? I'm thinking somewhere around 12 noon est....
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Why did you start with a 50$ roll 2 days ago when you were up hundreds last month. Did you go bust?
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I logged on just in time to see him lose the last of his buy-in with 66:

PokerStars Game #3972348578: Hold'em No Limit ($5/$10) - 2006/02/14 - 16:22:13 (ET)
Table 'Ostara II' Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: lawsonmiller ($880.10 in chips)
Seat 3: kingny76 ($207 in chips)
Seat 4: labbe555 ($120.50 in chips)
Seat 5: back2fish ($194.35 in chips)
Seat 6: ct112 ($1057 in chips)
Seat 7: BarnDogWins ($990 in chips)
Seat 8: rychy21 ($327 in chips)
Seat 9: Golfnuttpro ($360 in chips)
back2fish: posts small blind $5
ct112: posts big blind $10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Golfnuttpro said, "nice stack"
BarnDogWins: folds
rychy21: folds
Golfnuttpro: raises $30 to $40
lawsonmiller: folds
kingny76: folds
Uneven_King said, "later i won't take up the seat anymore"
Uneven_King said, "gl all"
labbe555: folds
back2fish: raises $154.35 to $194.35 and is all-in
ct112: folds
Golfnuttpro said, "later"
Golfnuttpro: calls $154.35
*** FLOP *** [4c 5d Jh]
Uneven_King leaves the table
*** TURN *** [4c 5d Jh] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [4c 5d Jh 3h] [Js]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
back2fish: shows [6d 6c] (two pair, Jacks and Sixes)
Golfnuttpro: shows [8c 8h] (two pair, Jacks and Eights)
jdoles214 joins the table at seat #2
back2fish said, "lol"
Golfnuttpro collected $395.70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $398.70 | Rake $3
Board [4c 5d Jh 3h Js]
Seat 1: lawsonmiller folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kingny76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: labbe555 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: back2fish (small blind) showed [6d 6c] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Sixes
Seat 6: ct112 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: BarnDogWins folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: rychy21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Golfnuttpro showed [8c 8h] and won ($395.70) with two pair, Jacks and Eights
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According to effective stack sizes, position and opponent's hand (unless opponent with AK limped in) it seems like you called a raise with 9Ts from BB with 25BB in front of you, flopped draw, made donkbet "semibluff" and finally hit 1:2 shot on the flop after being forced to put rest of your chips in the middle. Impressive, just wow.

$$$FREEROLL KING$$$ story from Parttimepoker website is running through my mind...
"How could I call that bet? How could you MAKE that bet? It's poker not solitaire. " - that Gus Bronson guy
 
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