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Old 09-23-2004, 12:00 AM     Post subject: What do I do about campers? #1 (permalink)  
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Hello,

I stumbled through this web site from google and I must say wow. Awesome strategies and stories here.

So here's what's going on. Everytime I have home games, there's this one guy who always camps his way to first, second, and third. He rides to first place a lot too.

Actually, he's not only a camper but also a trapper. I can manage to avoid his traps but he holds on to those chips like there's no tomorrow.

Any advice to break down those chips?

Thanks.
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Old 09-23-2004, 12:22 AM #2 (permalink)  
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sounds tight/aggressive.

fear him 'cause he's playing the right way.

play aggressively toward him, put pressure on his blinds, and don't let him limp.

if he bust back, most likely he's got a monster.
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Old 09-23-2004, 12:29 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Any chance he's already a member of FTR? :P If not . Tell him to stop by and drop some Knowledge.

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Old 09-23-2004, 12:38 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Any chance he's already a member of FTR? :P If not . Tell him to stop by and drop some Knowledge.
I don't think he knows how to use a computer that well.

Yeah, I gotta give him some props. He's good but I'm better. =)

It's usually, me, him, and another guy in the top three.

My current strategy now is having the nuts first and then trap him. But I'll take your advice into effect.
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Old 09-23-2004, 12:53 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Yeah with tight/aggressives, it's more a battle of attrition. You chip, chip away at their stack. And bring the thunder when the opportunity arrives.

He sounds alot like me. He plays to finish in the money. Not necessarily win.

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Old 09-23-2004, 07:50 AM #6 (permalink)  
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I don't know where you guys are getting the "aggressive" from. He sounds tight passive to me.

Best way to deal with rocks like him is just get out of their way when they bet, raise, or call a big bet. They definitely aren't the most profitable type of players to play against, but they're fairly predictable as well.
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Old 09-23-2004, 10:36 AM #8 (permalink)  
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And always try to sit to his direct right so you are in good position to take his blinds. Never let him stay in the hand without having to put chips in the pot.
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Old 09-23-2004, 02:34 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Use the counter strike tactic for dealing with campers. Throw a flashbang, kill him before he can see again, take his ammo(chips), proceed with game.
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Old 07-24-2005, 08:45 AM     Post subject: play some pockets #10 (permalink)  

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Generally, when dealing with a tight/agressive player its a wise decision to play wired pairs or hands with two cards of jack and above, and only those hands (at about a 7 man table that is). The reason is: when playing a tight/agressive player you only want to get involved when you have a MADE hand. I emphasize made because youll be in need of a definate hand that is strong enough to win a showdown ( considering the cards on the board ). Pocket pairs are good because against a tight/agressive player if you have, for example, pocket 6's and raise about 3x the blind and he calls from late position and the flop comes A J 6- in which case your set becomes a big favor to a pair of aces ( which all tight/aggressive players love ). Big overs are good cards because tight/aggressive players will play suited connecters and consider open ended straights and flushes great drawing hands. They'll try and limp in cheap with draws like that, and try and see a cheap turn and river to make their 4 card straight or flush become a 5 card straight or flush, which will have strength in a showdown. Therefore, its important on flops with ex KQ, a flop of K of clubs-6 of diamonds-7 of diamonds, to put the pressure on him to fold his drawing hand, or call and never catch his sweet little 1 in 5 shot. While the table is 5-9 handed, only showdown good cards and bust the table up with some solid hands, then when its 4-2 handed, you can switch gears and become more aggressive and grind his ass to the ground with semi-bluffs and hands that wouldnt win a showdown. Because you showed down quality starting hands everytime before ( like the pairs and overs ), he'll assume youre a tight player, and when its shorthanded and the blinds are large, you can steal pots with subordinate hands. When it gets to heads up with this guy - any two cards will do the trick. Poker is a matter of picking your battles.

Rebuttle- Assume you arent catching pairs or overs in your hole hands, and on the rare occasion you do, you hit nothing on the flop? Well, in this situation you'll have to start making plays and if this guys is such great player, do your best to avoid him, and try and steal blinds until your hand comes your way. WHATEVER YOU DO- dont showdown a complete bluff. He'll chew you up like bubblicious even if hes a 6 month amatuer with mediocre potential if you do.
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Old 07-24-2005, 01:10 PM #11 (permalink)  
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I didn't know i was playing in your home game....Seriously, thats how you make money plaing little SNG's like that.
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Old 07-24-2005, 07:30 PM     Post subject: Re: play some pockets #12 (permalink)  
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Generally, when dealing with a tight/agressive player its a wise decision to play wired pairs or hands with two cards of jack and above, and only those hands (at about a 7 man table that is). The reason is: when playing a tight/agressive player you only want to get involved when you have a MADE hand. I emphasize made because youll be in need of a definate hand that is strong enough to win a showdown ( considering the cards on the board ). Pocket pairs are good because against a tight/agressive player if you have, for example, pocket 6's and raise about 3x the blind and he calls from late position and the flop comes A J 6- in which case your set becomes a big favor to a pair of aces ( which all tight/aggressive players love ). Big overs are good cards because tight/aggressive players will play suited connecters and consider open ended straights and flushes great drawing hands. They'll try and limp in cheap with draws like that, and try and see a cheap turn and river to make their 4 card straight or flush become a 5 card straight or flush, which will have strength in a showdown. Therefore, its important on flops with ex KQ, a flop of K of clubs-6 of diamonds-7 of diamonds, to put the pressure on him to fold his drawing hand, or call and never catch his sweet little 1 in 5 shot. While the table is 5-9 handed, only showdown good cards and bust the table up with some solid hands, then when its 4-2 handed, you can switch gears and become more aggressive and grind his ass to the ground with semi-bluffs and hands that wouldnt win a showdown. Because you showed down quality starting hands everytime before ( like the pairs and overs ), he'll assume youre a tight player, and when its shorthanded and the blinds are large, you can steal pots with subordinate hands. When it gets to heads up with this guy - any two cards will do the trick. Poker is a matter of picking your battles.

Rebuttle- Assume you arent catching pairs or overs in your hole hands, and on the rare occasion you do, you hit nothing on the flop? Well, in this situation you'll have to start making plays and if this guys is such great player, do your best to avoid him, and try and steal blinds until your hand comes your way. WHATEVER YOU DO- dont showdown a complete bluff. He'll chew you up like bubblicious even if hes a 6 month amatuer with mediocre potential if you do.
wow man you seriously did some post digging..wow the last post made by bbondock on this topic was on september..lol


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Old 07-24-2005, 07:35 PM #13 (permalink)  
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Old 07-24-2005, 07:37 PM #14 (permalink)  
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Oh well looking on your profile - show all posts - i guess you been around the last few weeks I just missed everything you posted. Well welcome back homeboy. Send me 3 kilos of crack when you get this message.
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Old 07-24-2005, 07:58 PM #15 (permalink)  
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Oh well looking on your profile - show all posts - i guess you been around the last few weeks I just missed everything you posted. Well welcome back homeboy. Send me 3 kilos of crack when you get this message.
lol ok man the crack is on its way and its good to be back, not playing much b/c i hate superior poker and thats were my money is, ill start playing regularly soon enough....


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Old 07-24-2005, 09:07 PM #16 (permalink)  
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Against campers, just constantly steal small pots, and never get involved with them when they show interest in a pot unless you have a hand.

It's difficult to win money from a camper, but if you're a decent player, it's equally difficult to lose money to one.
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Old 07-24-2005, 10:26 PM #17 (permalink)  
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You should just keep stealing those people's blinds. Also, when small cards flop, it's an automatic bet from you. Tight players will sometimes limp with connectors and fold even if they make a pair. So you can bluff them there.

It very much depends on HOW tight. And how tight before the flop vs. after the flop. And also, how aggressive. Tight/passive players should probably not be bluffed too much because you might be throwing money into abyss.
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Old 08-05-2005, 02:39 AM     Post subject: gfshg #18 (permalink)  
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have i sat at a table with you poka? you got me pegged, cept i enjoy showing down a stone cold bluff every once in while. let 'em know i'm capable of it and all.

you never learn more about yourself than when someone tells you how it is. thanks.
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