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Johnnyqt25
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08-13-2005, 11:57 PM
Post subject: What to do about lowest pair?
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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What should I do if my opponent bets a decent amount when I have the lowest pair on board with nothing to chase but trips or 2 pairs. Lets say he bets half my stack. Would it be profitable to chase this?
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Irisheyes
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4-of-a-Kind
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Unless you are heads up and you got a good idea what you are doing you fold. All day every day. Bottom pair and middle pair is crap. Minimum you need to stay in the hand is top pair good kicker and better, good flush draws and open ended straight draws.
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aokrongly
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Full House
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The best general advice you can get is this:
If you're not willing to bet, fold; if you're not willing to raise; fold. Unless you KNOW THE ODDS of outdrawing, HAVE CALULATED THEM, and are getting the correct calling odds then just fold. It's easy. Click FOLD.
I'm gonna tell you something that most beginners never believe - YOU CAN WIN BIG MONEY BY PLAYING ONLY GOOD CARDS WITH GOOD FLOPS AND BETTING THEM OUT.
I make lots of money playing high stakes poker. I fold bottom pair, I fold AT preflop, I fold Top pair if there's three to a suit and I get called or raised when I bet. I fold when all those around me are calling. I fold like a cheap suit, like a beat dog, like a $3 lawn chair.
95% of the time I only play the BEST CARDS in the BEST POSITIONS with the BEST FLOPS. You can too. top pair crappy kicker is a bad hand, so obviously anything below that is worse.
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Johnnyqt25
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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You sound like a real straightforward tight player aokrongly. If I were up against you and you never bluff or anything, then I might just raise large and you'd probably fold right? In the long run, I'd probably be more profitable then you.
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Laeelin
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You sound like a real straightforward tight player aokrongly. If I were up against you and you never bluff or anything, then I might just raise large and you'd probably fold right? In the long run, I'd probably be more profitable then you.
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No offense, .... but...
Thats like walking up to Shaq, and telling him you could stomp them in 1 on 1.
Believe me, aok will know when your bluffing, and when your trying to slowplaying a monster.
Dont mistake good advice as all there is to the game.
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TLR
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As usual Aok's advice was right on the money.
Except for HU low pair is almost never the best hand after the flop, you dont want to put money in with a beaten hand with no drawa
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Aces
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Originally Posted by aokrongly
The best general advice you can get is this:
If you're not willing to bet, fold; if you're not willing to raise; fold. Unless you KNOW THE ODDS of outdrawing, HAVE CALULATED THEM, and are getting the correct calling odds then just fold. It's easy. Click FOLD.
I'm gonna tell you something that most beginners never believe - YOU CAN WIN BIG MONEY BY PLAYING ONLY GOOD CARDS WITH GOOD FLOPS AND BETTING THEM OUT.
I make lots of money playing high stakes poker. I fold bottom pair, I fold AT preflop, I fold Top pair if there's three to a suit and I get called or raised when I bet. I fold when all those around me are calling. I fold like a cheap suit, like a beat dog, like a $3 lawn chair.
95% of the time I only play the BEST CARDS in the BEST POSITIONS with the BEST FLOPS. You can too. top pair crappy kicker is a bad hand, so obviously anything below that is worse.
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Man it is hard to believe such straightforward play works at the high stakes you play but I believe you as you've been doing this and it's working. That's generally how I play at NL25 when I'm playing well.
Johnnyqt - you're new so unless you've been lurking you probably don't know aok but listen to what he says and learn from one of the best online players around these parts.
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EricE
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Originally Posted by Johnnyqt25
You sound like a real straightforward tight player aokrongly. If I were up against you and you never bluff or anything, then I might just raise large and you'd probably fold right? In the long run, I'd probably be more profitable then you.
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You had better learn some humility or players will walk all over you. Never mind, where do you play again...I want to look you up. 
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DoGGz
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08-15-2005, 09:25 PM
Post subject: Re: What to do about lowest pair?
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Originally Posted by Johnnyqt25
What should I do if my opponent bets a decent amount when I have the lowest pair on board with nothing to chase but trips or 2 pairs. Lets say he bets half my stack. Would it be profitable to chase this?
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Is this even a serious question?
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
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aok=god
repeat after me all beginners of which i am one
aok=god....
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Laeelin
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Full House
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Quote:
aok=god
repeat after me all beginners of which i am one
aok=god....
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I wouldnt go that far...
but he sure isnt someone i'd want to play against for any reason othere than practice against a very good player.
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