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Old 12-09-2005, 12:45 PM     Post subject: What constitutes a FISH? #1 (permalink)  
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A first question from a newbie.

What constitutes a fish?

1. River-happy players ?
2. Loose-tight?
3. Loose-agressive?
4. Me?
5. All of the above?
6. Others please specify: ________________

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Old 12-09-2005, 12:50 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Pretty much anyone who will put their money in on pots they have little chance of winning on a regular basis.
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:33 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Pretty much anyone who will put their money in on pots they have little chance of winning on a regular basis.
Yup. Players that call when they are behind, chasing the flush/straight/two-pair/sets with terrible odds are what I consider "fish."

The old saying goes, if you can't sit down at a table and figure out who "the fish" are, it's probably you.


 
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Old 12-09-2005, 02:55 PM #4 (permalink)  
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1. give up edges by not betting when ahead (not knowing when ahead, or when opponents are weak)

2. give away edges by consistently calling with poor odds (not knowing odds or factoring secondary considerations like overcallers, implied/ reverse implied odds etc)

3. tilt prone.
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Old 12-09-2005, 05:03 PM #5 (permalink)  
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There are way too many things to list.

Heck a fish could be someone who plays generally well but doesn’t play good against you in particular. My definition of a fish is anyone I can expect to win big $ off [for whatever reason] in the long run.
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Old 12-09-2005, 05:19 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I would also add people who over estimate their abilities at given level or their understanding of the game. On the surface poker is very simple game and there are tens of thousands of players who think because they've watch celebrity poker and payed attention to Phil Gordon's comentary they now hold the secret to beating 75% of all other players.
 
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Old 12-09-2005, 08:23 PM #7 (permalink)  
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im going to have to go with 4.
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Old 12-09-2005, 08:58 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Ok everyones had a bash at it so heres mine.
1. Someone's a fish if they are loose. They play too many hands with little chance of winning even if they catch
2. they're a fish if they have bad positional skills. I saw a guy limp 98s utg in full ring. So nxt time he bet his flus hdraw from utg i moved all in with top pair and slaughtered his odds.
3. Passive players. A lot of good players bet in marginal situations where they MAY or at least THINk they are ahead. Aggressive players here have a lead on passives because passives run the possibility of being outdrawn.
4. Calling stations. Anyone who calls down is a fish. Basically you raise or fold you ont call, unless you flop da nutz!
5. Players who cant fold. Its easy to set up a player who cant fold because he thinks you/I bluff. These players are ATMS's and i love em. They beat my bluffs then pay my monster
6. Chasers. Anyone who cant do their pot odds is a gold mine. Overrating a draw is imo the worst thing a poker player can do, besides call with teh nutz.
7. A player who thinks im a fish. 50nl the other day. bibfish says '44 dude. why u calling my raise with 44 muck it' i laughed as id broken his KK with trips. He thought ever play i made after that was a bluff so i made 3 buy ins from him. And he said i was a fish!
8. Players who tilt. It can take 4 days to get AA. But AA at a table with a tilter is the promise of a buy in!
9. Mini raisers. Noone mini raises unless they hve teh nutz and even then you shouldnt really. But mini raiser is a fish who hasnt found the drag bar yet. You want to play against them

These are the nots i keep on players and anyone who has 2/3 or them unfortunatly has to play with me a lot.
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Old 12-09-2005, 11:09 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Ok everyones had a bash at it so heres mine.
1. Someone's a fish if they are loose. They play too many hands with little chance of winning even if they catch
2. they're a fish if they have bad positional skills. I saw a guy limp 98s utg in full ring. So nxt time he bet his flus hdraw from utg i moved all in with top pair and slaughtered his odds.
3. Passive players. A lot of good players bet in marginal situations where they MAY or at least THINk they are ahead. Aggressive players here have a lead on passives because passives run the possibility of being outdrawn.
4. Calling stations. Anyone who calls down is a fish. Basically you raise or fold you ont call, unless you flop da nutz!
5. Players who cant fold. Its easy to set up a player who cant fold because he thinks you/I bluff. These players are ATMS's and i love em. They beat my bluffs then pay my monster
6. Chasers. Anyone who cant do their pot odds is a gold mine. Overrating a draw is imo the worst thing a poker player can do, besides call with teh nutz.
7. A player who thinks im a fish. 50nl the other day. bibfish says '44 dude. why u calling my raise with 44 muck it' i laughed as id broken his KK with trips. He thought ever play i made after that was a bluff so i made 3 buy ins from him. And he said i was a fish!
8. Players who tilt. It can take 4 days to get AA. But AA at a table with a tilter is the promise of a buy in!
9. Mini raisers. Noone mini raises unless they hve teh nutz and even then you shouldnt really. But mini raiser is a fish who hasnt found the drag bar yet. You want to play against them

These are the nots i keep on players and anyone who has 2/3 or them unfortunatly has to play with me a lot.
Great post Miffed! I like to think of a fish as anyone who's a losing player.
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Old 12-10-2005, 11:59 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Appologies in advance but I just had to..



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Old 12-10-2005, 01:01 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Fishes NEVER lays down his high pocket overpair no matter what. He ALWAYS goes broke if run into 2 pair or better, just cant cant cant lay it down.

It's different fishy behaviour, something that differs smart TAGG from uncreative nit.
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Old 12-10-2005, 03:40 PM #12 (permalink)  
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Ok first
iRicheyes, that fish is pathetic find a better one!
second
bdawg56kg thanks, glad u liked the post!
But, a fish is on most occasions but a losing player but not always.
I usually play full ring 50nl but one day founda regular op at 100nl max. Hes a good ring player, probably profitble but at the 6 max table he was a fish. why? He player his typical tight aggressive game which meant i could put him on cards every time. My advantage came from when i knew he missed the flop or wouldnt call IF he thought he was behind. Hence a fish is not always a losing player, good players can be fish in the wrong game or wrong scenario.
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Old 12-10-2005, 05:14 PM #14 (permalink)  
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someone who loses money
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Old 12-11-2005, 01:05 PM #15 (permalink)  
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so about 70% - 80% of us are fishes?
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Old 12-11-2005, 01:13 PM #16 (permalink)  
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1. Any of numerous cold-blooded aquatic vertebrates of the superclass Pisces, characteristically having fins, gills, and a streamlined body and including specifically:
1. Any of the class Osteichthyes, having a bony skeleton.
2. Any of the class Chondrichthyes, having a cartilaginous skeleton and including the sharks, rays, and skates.
2. The flesh of such animals used as food.
3. Any of various primitive aquatic vertebrates of the class Cyclostomata, lacking jaws and including the lampreys and hagfishes.
4. Any of various unrelated aquatic animals, such as a jellyfish, cuttlefish, or crayfish.
5. Informal. A person, especially one considered deficient in something: a poor fish.

Someone who loses money is too general. I'd say someone who loses money in the Long Run...

Some chase:




Others r too agressive:




In conclusion, don't be a shark, be a bear:

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Old 12-11-2005, 03:00 PM #17 (permalink)  
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HA HA HA!! I concede defeat to trip. Well played man.
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Old 12-11-2005, 04:42 PM #18 (permalink)  
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LMFAO
wtf is all that....... shit??!?!?!

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