Originally Posted by JeffreyGB

I fold anything I wouldn't normally call with in late position. I figure the discount makes it worth calling with stuff like KJ, but anything more questionable than that, I'm probably folding.

Used to play anything moderately good. Got PokerTracker. Saw that I was losing a ton of money in the blinds. Changed up my play and while I'm still in the negative for the blinds, now if you remove the cost of the blinds, I'm up $80 in SB and $300 in BB.

P.S. Could someone move this to HE Strats or some such place? Not much HHH here.

Originally Posted by Cocco_Bill

maybe you were losing so much from teh blinds because you were not letting your hand go on the flop and not soimuch because you were completing the SB

Originally Posted by JeffreyGB

Nope. Over even 5k hands, I was seeing that it was costing me quite a lot praying for a semi-miracle hit. I wasn't losing big anywhere, but .25 repeated 400 times (assuming that the remaining 100 or so I had a playable hand) in the small blind with questionable hands results in -$100 looking for a magical hit. Doubtful that I'd be making that much off of it hitting when it came. Not to mention that you've got the worst position at the table once the flop comes.

- Jeffrey

Originally Posted by doggz

Jeffrey, in my reading the past month of your posts I've found one thing with you: Excellent preflop player, Average postflop player.

Originally Posted by doggz

I play alot of hands from the SB i wouldn't elsewhere, and, if you don't count the blind itself, PT tells me I've been profitable. If you remove AA KK and QQ from the stats I'm still showing a +55$ profit from coming into pots with hands I normally would fold.

Originally Posted by doggz

Remember here. 76o vs AKs isn't as big of a dog as you'd think. If you are getting 5:1 odds (1 limper and the BB and your blind), then this is an easy call. You just need to refine your play when this marginal hands hit/semi-hit/and miss.

Originally Posted by ripjohngotti

If u wouldn't play it unsuited dont play it suited, i fold probably everything in SNG except 20's, suited connectros, pp in the small blind. I even fold baby aces..


q-3 suited would definately be folded

Originally Posted by thestrokes

What are 20's? My guess... cards taht add up to 20? like TJ and stuff like that?

Originally Posted by JeffreyGB

Interesting. Good to know as well. I'm curious, is there any specific aspect of my postflop play you'd say I need to work on?


I have only seen some hands and analysis, but it seems you aren't agressive enough when you could. If you flopped top 2 pair and there were 2 cards to a straight and 2 cards to a flush would you call someone that pushed? See below

That's actually comparable to my numbers. I guess you can indeed make up for the loss.

As a general rule of thumb, the more action you give, the more action you get. If you can play more marginal hands at the correct times you end up getting larger EV+ for monster hands... and more chances to win monster pots vs hands like TPTK and draws.



Valid point. You can't really just look at how you are against one or two hands that would call ahead of you. 76o may not be a huge dog to AKs (not incredibly likely to be limped anyway...), but if you throw 88, 98s, JTs, and KQo, you're about as big a dog to most of these (each taken separately), and it gets to the point that you need a miracle in order to beat every one of the hands that stays in with you.

And again, you're in horrid position after the flop. I guess that's not as big a deal, since I'd assume this will be a hit or fold situation, but it still bears mentioning.
It requires reading the players and knowing when you are ahead. At a BnM you get to see 10-20 people for an extended period and see them play. Online, you get to see 100's of people for short times (generally), so you inherently can't get the same reads on them, but you can pick of the easy general reads. These are the ones like betting patterns (read SIZE OF BET). It will come with seeing the hands, but you just 'know' what that player has, or more importantly what he doesn't.

I'm sure ilikeaces can back me up here that there are many times you can take down the pot reguardless of what you have, and the times you hit your monster? Just one in 100 hands you get payed off calling an all-in or getting called an all in justifies losing all 99 of the other hands, which invaribly you won't.

Know when to fold

Originally Posted by JeffreyGB

So you're not saying that your read is that I play to far, but rather that I fold too easily?

Originally Posted by doggz

In some situations. Your play looks more like a classic limit player that plays NL.