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Old 11-24-2006, 07:31 AM     Post subject: vpip and pfr = starting hands?? #1 (permalink)  
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Hi,
I ve been trying to move from tournaments to ring games since a montha ago now but I can t see any result worth of notice. If I stick to a tight aggressive approach i can manage to win some hands (most of the times small pots) but then a bad beat or a following tilt makes me loose all my buyin, more than i could earn in 5/6 hours. While doing some reading i found aces's guide to nl and his advices but i still cannot translate his suggestion of vpip around 13% and pfr 8% into starting hands.
Another thing, do you think I sould start playind nl 25 or 50 to improve my game (bankroll is not an issue at this levels)
Thanks a lot
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Old 11-24-2006, 07:59 AM #2 (permalink)  
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13% VPIP would be something like AJ+, KQ+ and all pairs, plus some other broadways and suited connectors in late postion. 8% PFR is around AJ+, KQ+, 88+, but again you need to take into account position. You can work these out with Pokerstove (great tool)

http://www.pokerstove.com/

Make sure you check out Rentons guides too. Good stuff in there: http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...oker-36037.htm
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Old 11-24-2006, 10:38 AM     Post subject: Re: vpip and pfr = starting hands?? #3 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by giallorosso
tilt makes me loose more than i could earn in 5/6 hours.
Its always going to be this way. Just accept that right now your biggest leak is probably that you tilt. Find out why and fix it.
gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.

bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
 
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Old 11-24-2006, 10:16 PM #4 (permalink)  
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that used to be my biggest problem, I called off too much money with the second best hand. you need to learn pot control and reading your opponent better.
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Old 11-25-2006, 01:16 AM #5 (permalink)  
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that used to be my biggest problem, I called off too much money with the second best hand. you need to learn pot control and reading your opponent better.
and tilting?
gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.

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Old 11-25-2006, 04:51 AM #6 (permalink)  
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Somewhat off topic, but does aces really suggest playing a 13/8 style?
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