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dranger7070
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04-06-2009, 06:35 AM
Post subject: Video for micro grinders
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Since PlayToWin asked me to do one, I've been thinking about it and bought the recording software. I just want to hold a poll to see what stakes (2nl or 5nl) and what game type (6max or FR).
This isn't 100% yet, but its a work in progress I suppose. Ill see if anyone is interested before I get too serious and make myself look like a douche (possibly too late for that  ).
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just fucking make one it doesn't matter
also, you can only choose one option in that poll
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dranger7070
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yea i updated it lol
and also, i think it does matter, considering there might only be a couple people playing 2nl FR for example, but more are doing 6max and i do it on FR. I want to do the poll so that i can see what the majority is playing. I dont see whats wrong with that.
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tyrn
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2 or 5 NL doesn't make a difference, but make it FR. There's enough micro 6max videos out there. Increase the number of tables if it goes too slow.
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FR videos are boring as shit
so are 6m videos actually
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Oh oh... Do 10nl.. And show everyone how big of a nitfest it really is.
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dranger7070
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Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
Oh oh... Do 10nl.. And show everyone how big of a nitfest it really is.
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lol should i? 
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You should make the video on whatever game/stakes you are currently playing or play the most. I think rather then thinking about what sort of video will help others best you should be focusing on the type that will benefit you.
What sort of software are you using? Is their any free alternatives?
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AFchung
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5NL or 10NL sounds good. i think 2NL would make people fall asleep looking at the dollar amount on the bets
OH MY GOD, 3BET TO A QUARTER
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Lucothefish
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$10NL FR isn't in the options.
If you do $10NL you won't have a video that's just 15 minutes of Dranger dancing around in a jester's hat shouting VALUEEEEEEEEEE BETTTTTT!
$10NL is nowhere near as nitty as someone (*cough*erland) suggested, but at least there are some semi-aware players to use in the vid.
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Schya
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Yeah dranger just make a 10NL FR video.
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dranger7070
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*sigh* FINE lol I guess 10nl it is. I really don't wanna end up looking like a moron lol, but ah well, too late for that probs. I'll try to make one that is at least SOMEWHAT entertaining/worth watching.
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Well aparently your crushing 10NL so wheres the moron part come in??? lol I just realized your BR is already at $400 very nice sir.
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I guess microstakes videos are boring by default... but that's kind of the point. There's not much you can do to increase your profits besides waiting for a good hand and then betting it with importunity.
I think it's a big mistake for 2NL players to watch mid-stakes+ videos and trying to apply the concepts.
I think it's a great idea, and I wouldn't worry too much about doing or saying anything stupid. You're beating the stakes, and we can always discuss it afterwards.
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Hope you are doing 4 tables of FR.Might sleep if less than that.
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10 NL/FR pleze!
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ArcadianRock
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If you're doing FR videos just play about 1000 hands and then go through them all with a replayer with HUD on. It's not like your decisions will change. I forget hands all the time, replay them on the player and notice I make 90% the same decisions.
That way you don't have to bore everyone when nothing happens for 10 minutes.
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dranger7070
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Originally Posted by ArcadianRock
If you're doing FR videos just play about 1000 hands and then go through them all with a replayer with HUD on. It's not like your decisions will change. I forget hands all the time, replay them on the player and notice I make 90% the same decisions.
That way you don't have to bore everyone when nothing happens for 10 minutes.
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Bit of a problem here considering I'm on a mac. I have a working HUD, but no replayer for the software yet :/.
I will definitely 4 table though, any less is too boring considering I 8-10 table it now usually.
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$5NL or $10NL doesn't matter. FR or 6max doesn't matter. When playing the stakes they are all the same when it comes to a decent player beating the stake. As for 6m or FR just count the first 3 or 4 seats as UTG anyway and the MP,CO, BTN and blinds are the same. At these stakes there aren't enough difference in the details to matter. Your showing positional awareness and how to play the different streets right? What does it matter.
My suggestion, record the session first, then do the sound after. it is easier to stop the vid and talk and point things out that way instead of forgetting your thoughts or having multiple hands to talk about.
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Originally Posted by jyms
$5NL or $10NL doesn't matter. FR or 6max doesn't matter. When playing the stakes they are all the same when it comes to a decent player beating the stake. As for 6m or FR just count the first 3 or 4 seats as UTG anyway and the MP,CO, BTN and blinds are the same. At these stakes there aren't enough difference in the details to matter. Your showing positional awareness and how to play the different streets right? What does it matter.
My suggestion, record the session first, then do the sound after. it is easier to stop the vid and talk and point things out that way instead of forgetting your thoughts or having multiple hands to talk about.
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truth, I do my sound live and my videos suck!
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Originally Posted by jyms
$5NL or $10NL doesn't matter. FR or 6max doesn't matter. When playing the stakes they are all the same when it comes to a decent player beating the stake. As for 6m or FR just count the first 3 or 4 seats as UTG anyway and the MP,CO, BTN and blinds are the same. At these stakes there aren't enough difference in the details to matter. Your showing positional awareness and how to play the different streets right? What does it matter.
My suggestion, record the session first, then do the sound after. it is easier to stop the vid and talk and point things out that way instead of forgetting your thoughts or having multiple hands to talk about.
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truth, I do my sound live and my videos are good! |
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My idea right, so I get to pick lol. I vote for 5NL 6-max. 5NL FR might be ok too since I've never played it and am curious. This may be the first vid of a dranger7070 series! Thanks for the effort.
I suggest that you "keep it honest". Meaning that if you make a few bad plays, I want to see them. Don't scrap the vid so you can make a better one showing you crushing. On pay video sites, they are motivated to show winning poker videos, not necessarily honest ones imo.
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Originally Posted by PlayToWin
. On pay video sites, they are motivated to show winning poker videos, not necessarily honest ones imo. |
Not true. In one of Spenda's 10NL vids on grinderschool , he was set of 8's against set of 5's on the flop with both players 200 bb deep when villain rivered his quad. He took it remarkably well, unless he was doing the commentary afterwards and the hand was responsible for one of his smashed mice.
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jyms
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Originally Posted by PlayToWin
I suggest that you "keep it honest". Meaning that if you make a few bad plays, I want to see them. Don't scrap the vid so you can make a better one showing you crushing. On pay video sites, they are motivated to show winning poker videos, not necessarily honest ones imo. |
Yea not so, ask anyone who has seen grinderschool vids of mine, I ran horrible in a ton of them. No F'n way am I redoing an hour of solid conversation and gameplay just to post a winning session at $5NL. Not to mention another hour of grinding micro's
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Originally Posted by Keith_MM
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Originally Posted by PlayToWin
. On pay video sites, they are motivated to show winning poker videos, not necessarily honest ones imo. |
Not true. In one of Spenda's 10NL vids on grinderschool , he was set of 8's against set of 5's on the flop with both players 200 bb deep when villain rivered his quad. He took it remarkably well, unless he was doing the commentary afterwards and the hand was responsible for one of his smashed mice. |
Omg, I remember that hand lol. If that happens to me during my video, plan on that shit being cut short, or massive spew to follow lol. I don't think I've been one-outered yet so I'd rather not see how it feels .
And PlayToWin, I'm probably (will be) doing a 10nl FR video. It will just as much for me getting some pointers on some of my leaks from better players, as showing other people how to beat the level. No set date on when I will actually DO the video, but sometime in April I'll give it a shot.
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