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Mike
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01-18-2007, 07:47 AM
Post subject: UTG - 10 seat cash game - what now?
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The BB=$2
The hand is JJ
Any suggestions?
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ecrujet
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Benoso
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I'd probably raise to $8-$10, you might take it down but if you see a flop you're most probably in good shape. If you get re-raised then you have a decision to make. 
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ecrujet
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I hear what your saying Benso but you have 3rd best pair here, why risk $8-$10 only for someone to call and get lucky.
Its a 10 seat ring game whats the chances of you being beat here?
Nah all ins the way to go here and if some punk calls and beats you thats just bad luck. Innit?
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Benoso
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Originally Posted by ecrujet
I hear what your saying Benso but you have 3rd best pair here, why risk $8-$10 only for someone to call and get lucky.
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Someone could get lucky whether you raise $10 or raise all-in.
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if you´re serious:
cash or tourney?
limit?
position?
stacks?
action to you?
reads?
else:
push
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Miffed22001
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01-18-2007, 01:58 PM
Post subject: Re: UTG - 10 seat cash game - what now?
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Originally Posted by Mike
The BB=$2
The hand is JJ
Any suggestions?
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why is this spot so hard?
If you had AJo/KQo here you'd be posing a much more difficult question.
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Jimmy Mac
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In the preflop section of NLHE T&P they recommend a limp. Easy raise for me though - 4xBB or whatever your standard opener is should be fine. We're talking about the 4th or 5th best hand in holdem here!
I'd open fold AJo & KQo though.
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jyms
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B3B push, Ax, Kx 30% to hit the flop. Push the flop if unders.
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Sprayed
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I have concerns that if you are unsure what to do with JJ UTG while playing 1/2, you probably shouldn't be playing at that level.
The answer for me is that it depends. If the table is overly loose and calling all types of raises I would probably limp. If it's tight I'm raising.
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jyms
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I think that is the stack size.
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Sprayed
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01-18-2007, 04:27 PM
Post subject: Re: UTG - 10 seat cash game - what now?
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Originally Posted by Mike
The BB=$2
The hand is JJ
Any suggestions?
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Next time, list:
BB/SB
Reads on the table and players
Your stack size
Other players' stack sizes
etc.
I would also push if my stack was short.
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Seabass
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A normal raise is the only way to play it with the info given. Followed with a bet on the flop, depending abit on the flop and how many people called.
I'm assuming that you aint realy shortstacked at this point.
What 1/2 tables are the rest of you playing if you realy think pushing is a good idea? This is mid, not micro stakes.
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Seabass
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Oh, and I dont realy see the need for any reads or any other info at this point (unless the table has a total mad man who likes to push allin left and right vs limpers, but if you cant take his money, quit).
JJ is a nice hand in full ring, but not that nice as you wanna get cute with it.
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Sprayed
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You need a lot more information than what was provided. Hence it would depend how the hand should be played. If he's extremely short he should just open push. Depending upon the table dynamics and stack size (again more info needed from OP) a standard raise or limp is fine.
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jyms
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the OP hasn't been back since he posted that. Don't think he is too concerned about it, hence the lack of info or reply's
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Mike
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I have not abandoned the question. I asked it just to get an idea about how different people would handle it. On purpose I didn't give any more information just to get people talking about what things that matters in the decision making.
As many mentioned, it would depend alot on the table. How loose it is and so on. How much do I know about the table. The fact that it is about 15% chance that someone has an overpair is also to be taken into consideration. Am I willing to risk a gigantic stack with an all in move - given that someone will take it from me in 15% of the cases when the upside only is $1.5?
By the way, I do pretty fine in the NH $1 table as well as $2 tables.
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jyms
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Originally Posted by Mike
I have not abandoned the question. I asked it just to get an idea about how different people would handle it. On purpose I didn't give any more information just to get people talking about what things that matters in the decision making.
As many mentioned, it would depend alot on the table. How loose it is and so on. How much do I know about the table. The fact that it is about 15% chance that someone has an overpair is also to be taken into consideration. Am I willing to risk a gigantic stack with an all in move - given that someone will take it from me in 15% of the cases when the upside only is $1.5?
By the way, I do pretty fine in the NH $1 table as well as $2 tables.
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You still haven't clarified, is this $200NL with $1/$2 blinds, or $2NL with blinds of $0.01/$0.02, because it matters. Is it 6max or FR, because it matters, and finally what other table actions are happening, again, because it matters.
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Miffed22001
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Originally Posted by Mike
I have not abandoned the question. I asked it just to get an idea about how different people would handle it. On purpose I didn't give any more information just to get people talking about what things that matters in the decision making.
As many mentioned, it would depend alot on the table. How loose it is and so on. How much do I know about the table. The fact that it is about 15% chance that someone has an overpair is also to be taken into consideration. Am I willing to risk a gigantic stack with an all in move - given that someone will take it from me in 15% of the cases when the upside only is $1.5?
By the way, I do pretty fine in the NH $1 table as well as $2 tables.
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Its not even a question or decision. You raise.
As noted, if you ahd AJ/KQ this would be a much more interesting question
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Mike
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It is $200NL with $1/$2 blinds and the table is 10 seated aka FR.
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jyms
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Raise, next question.
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bigspenda73
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LOL@ $200NL in the beginners circle.
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Seabass
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The title say full ring (10 max) and the post say BB=2. That part is rather clear imo.
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Drewbie
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Raise PF to at least 8$ if this is 200NL.
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raise 4-5X. cannot believe there is another answer given the lack of info.
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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