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    Default US site for Canadian?

    I'm going to Louisiana for two weeks training and have nothing to do while there. I don't feel like sitting in Bars and hanging out or seeing sites because I will be alone. I was wondering where would be the best site to grind a couple micro tables. Obviously money transfers and withdrawals will matter. I play with a micro roll on Stars now. I admit I am not up to date on the US poker seen because I am Canadian.

    Any thoughts. I have 16 days down there, and really no life.
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    Bovada is super fishy and a lot of fun. No hud. Anonymous play. Rush poker if you want it. Bovada calls it Zone poker. Probably the most action for US-facing sites and supposedly the easiest to get your money off of, though I haven't tested that yet. There's no rakeback but there is a 100% initial deposit bonus. US residents will need to deposit via Western Union money transfer which takes about an hour or so. If you're not a US resident and/or don't use a US bank you might be able to use Visa or an ewallet. Their chat support should know.

    http://www.bovada.lv/

    The other options are Black Chip or America's Cardroom (on the Winning Poker Network), or Carbon Poker on the Merge Network. They're also good. They allow huds, but they're not nearly as fishy.

    I recommend Bovada. It is a blast. 10 nl is very loose passive and not a lot of tags unlike Black Chip or Carbon.
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    Thanks. Hoping to hear a confirmation or two and maybe something from Keith. He is the resident Poker Site guru I think.
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    I know a couple of people playing on Bovada and they say its fishy as hell at the micros, HUD is available via holdem indicator BUT in their opinion its a crock of shit. Since limited to 4 tables it will suit people who take a load of notes manually and observe opponents.One is learning 5nl HU which doesn't pay rake til there's 1$ in the pot and then its 5c per $ in the pot up to max of 10$ pot. So a lot of play can be rake free at that level with normal opens and cbets not breaking the 1$ pot barrier. HU on a 6max/FR table is completely different with 1c per 20c in the pot so much higher rake in comparison.

    They say cashouts are relatively quick but i have a feeling that there's a fee to pay. Skrill is not available so you'd probably have to deposit with Visa and cash out back to your card.

    I've managed to cashout relatively quickly from Black chip to skrill after they swapped to WPN but haven't looked at their traffic numbers lately.Beast rake is a killer above 10nl and in order to win anything you have to play breakeven /losing poker on 30+ tables across all limits.

    Intertops is an option as they supposedly pay out quickly despite being on revolution and they are now linked to juicy stakes user base. heard reports that traffic has improved since juicy stakes buyout.However ,i wouldn't put my money anywhere near revolution.its probably safe on intertops

    merge looks like its a couple of weeks to get a check off , no idea about skrill with them.
    Last edited by Keith; 10-28-2013 at 02:32 PM.
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    I'm Canadian so I am looking to throw $50 on the site ( SKrill is ok, but I have other options here usually) and as long as my winnings or cash out is safe and less than a few weeks that is cool. Not looking to do more than 4-10 tables at most. Mostly 6 max anyway. Anything I have will just be added to the few bucks I have on Stars when I get back. I need a time waster and it may as well be poker.

    I take it Stars doesn't have a "Canadian on vacation in the US option"?
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    even ipoker have cracked down on us players playing via VPNs so getting on ipoker/party/888/stars etc is pretty much a waste of time.
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    Actually betonline is another option , BUT they are on the same networks as action poker,paynorake etc and loads of cashout problems so best avoided but meant to have really bad players as well.
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    There is a good chance I may just go with Bovada. I don't need to worry about a hud or HH's. Just need a time waster. The biggest issue might be that I can't download the software or deposit until I am actually in the US. Then I need to figure out a withdrawal method because I will be in Canada.
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    I'm a fellow Canucklehead, just made my 1st deposit last week. I would check out the Bodog site for nice perks.

    30% RB for 1st deposit, the Canada game promo, and this was great, $100 free sports bet, (have to rake 3X poker pts).

    On a hunch I took the Red Sox to win game 4, paid $90. Interac works for deposits, not withdrawals. Courier or $3000 min. bank transfer.

    Support seems fascinated by shiny objects, (thats been frustrating) and finding account details are at the website which is a bit confusing. Don't expect Pokerstars, any moron can figure this out, information like the bonus page in cashier or the Stellar rewards bar.
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    Are you playing from Canada? Or in the states? I don't think I can deposit on US bovada or download the software in Canada.
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    Yes I am in Canada. Go to the Bodog site, not Bovada.
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    Ok. Do you know if that's going to allow me to play from the states? Can I transfer the money to the American site while I'm there?
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    I don't know. But in my short time there it seems, like abelardx said, fishy.

    Maybe not super fishy but taking advantage of perks is easy money.

    So my point is, +EV to go for the perks, not short term.
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    Bodog and Bovada are different companies. Bodog is based in Antigua, owned by Calvin Ayre, and includes many businesses besides online gambling. Bovada is owned by the Mohawk tribe of Canada. They are on the same poker network but they are different companies.

    It's complicated because Bodog sold its US online gambling operation to the Mohawk tribe several years ago who then licensed the Bodog brand from them. Then bodog.com got sued in Maryland. The Mohawk dissolved the licensing arrangement, extricated themselves from the lawsuit, and rebranded as Bovada, a totally separate company. The Bodog that Canadians and Europeans can play on is bodog.eu not bodog.com. bodog.com was seized by the US govt.

    I believe that if you are Canadian you should sign up at Bodog and then you can play on Bodog in the US. Americans cannot sign up at Bodog. We must sign up at Bovada.

    I say that because I went to the bodog.eu site and saw this sign:



    Notice where it says that if you already have a Bodog account you can sign in and play, even though you're in the US.

    I don't know why Canadians are directed to sign up at Bodog when Bovada is owned by the Canadian Mohawk tribe. Maybe you can sign up at either. Maybe it's a licensing arrangement between the Mohawk and Bodog. I don't know. It's weird.

    But apparently, sign up for either Bodog or Bovada, whatever it tells you to use while you're in Canada, probably bodog.eu, and you should still be able to play on that account while in the US.

    Stars and Tilt of course will block any US IP address from playing real money poker on their sites.
    Last edited by abelardx; 10-30-2013 at 07:01 AM.
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    Yes, that is like the page I saw only mine was Bovada telling me about Bodog. I was wondering about the balance and whether they just allow it to be moved. It even mentions "If you are travelling".
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    My impression was that if you live in Canada you sign up at Bodog and then you can play on Bodog in the US. Only the country of residence seems to matter to them. And you don't have to move any money between Bodog and Bovada. I'd shoot support an email just to be sure tho.
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    I did email Bovada yesterday and got a stupid standard response about country of origin.

    to bad Stars isn't like that. I sent them an email and surprisingly haven't got anything back.
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    There's always Carbon. It's pretty nice. Better software. However if you can get on Bodogada the fishiness in something special.
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    I'm not too worried about fish, anything under $50NL on stars is easily beatable with some standard poker. Just boring to grind it out with a bunch of regs, but regs are the new fish. If you can't beat regs you will never be a winning poker player.
  20. #20
    You might want to check out a gator farm or swampy national park. The Gulf Coast is a lot of fun too. They call it the redneck riviera. Always lots of tourists. Have fun in the south. It can be really nice.
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    Well it's been almost impossible to find info on the Bodog/Bovada link. I sent emails to both about money transfers but neither seems to understand nor care to do anything but tell me the standard company line about "**** site is for ****residients only,Please use **** site for your play"

    I am really just looking for a time waster to throw a few bucks on to play and be able to get it back after. I worry about just depositing onto a US site and getting stuck because of my Canadian address when needing to get it back. Maybe Skrill is my best option for that.Hard to say when I can't even download the software until I am out of Canada.
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    try and see if you can get 50$ off pure poker by claiming you had money on LOCK and see what you can run it up to.You'll probably need to deposit in order to withdraw it or any winnings , but in terms of a time waster, it will save you any hassles trying to get money on the site initially.Supposedly they are taking Greendot moneypaks for deposits , so you may be able to cash out the same way and then trade the GDMP in 2+2's marketplace for skrill.
    But if you do have to deposit there , just ask some of the US players how to get hold of a GDMP.cashouts there are completely unknown , but if its free money its not like you are throwing good money into the cess pit that is US facing pokersites.

    Bovada definitely don't take skrill.
    Last edited by Keith; 10-31-2013 at 01:22 PM.
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    You probably don't want to but you can play Stars and Tilt play money in the US. It sounded like if you signed up for Bodog in Canada and traveled to the US you could still play there while in the US.
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    Wow. If that was machine generated that is some pretty awesome NLP. ^^^
  25. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by abelardx View Post
    You probably don't want to but you can play Stars and Tilt play money in the US. It sounded like if you signed up for Bodog in Canada and traveled to the US you could still play there while in the US.
    Ya, I got news for you. Take money out of poker and I'd rather play bingo at my local church than sit in front of my computer. I'd play Angry Birds instead of Zynga poker

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