Unknown fish, horribly played rockets

**BorisTheSpider** · 06-23-2012 01:27 AM

Bugger. I think I butchered this.

SB ($114.90)
BB ($390.25)
Hero (UTG) ($140.02)
MP ($108.67)
CO ($50)
Button ($53.03)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A

, A

Hero bets $1.50, MP calls $1.50, 4 folds

Flop: ($4.35) 10

, 9

, 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $4, MP calls $4

Turn: ($12.35) K

(2 players)
Hero bets $10, MP raises to $20, Hero calls $10

River: ($52.35) 6

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $29.50, Hero ???

Problem was, over like 20 hands villain was 70/20, was sitting short and generally acting like a tard. I think I gave too much credit to the idea of some kind of Kx hand floating with overs, but can you really fold to a minraise on the turn here?

I guess if we do call the turn, the river should be a b/f but I was hoping for a cheap showdown.

**bikes** · 06-23-2012 01:39 AM

c/f

**BorisTheSpider** · 06-23-2012 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by bikes

c/f

Not questioning the advice as such, just to clarify:

- Don't you think if he floats Kx, picks up a king, then we check the river, he bets thinking he's betting for value?

- If he minraises the turn as some sort of spazz bluff on what he could reasonably perceive as a decent bluffing card, then we check the river, he will fire again no matter what he holds?

- Why is this a c/f not a b/f ?

**bikes** · 06-23-2012 02:32 AM

TT. 99 QJ, K9, KT, T9 w/e last set was

KQ KJ AK

**BorisTheSpider** · 06-23-2012 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by bikes

TT. 99 QJ, K9, KT, T9 w/e last set was

KQ KJ AK

Word

**daven** · 06-23-2012 06:37 PM

isn't he pretty much 99/QJ/KT here almost all of the time when he raises the turn? fold river

**rong** · 06-23-2012 11:07 PM

Originally Posted by daven

isn't he pretty much 99/QJ/KT here almost all of the time when he raises the turn? fold river

So you call the min raise on the turn just to cf the river?

**daven** · 06-24-2012 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by rong

So you call the min raise on the turn just to cf the river?

who said anything about calling the turn?
and, yep, i;m with bikes on c-folding the river

**kickass** · 06-24-2012 06:13 PM

With this turn sizing I can't see villain raising his Kx. Fold dat turn yo

06-23-2012 01:27 AM #1
BorisTheSpider View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Mar 2012 Posts 241 Location UK	Unknown fish, horribly played rockets Bugger. I think I butchered this. SB ($114.90) BB ($390.25) Hero (UTG) ($140.02) MP ($108.67) CO ($50) Button ($53.03) Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A Hero bets $1.50, MP calls $1.50, 4 folds Flop: ($4.35) 10, 9, 5 (2 players) Hero bets $4, MP calls $4 Turn: ($12.35) K (2 players) Hero bets $10, MP raises to $20, Hero calls $10 River: ($52.35) 6 (2 players) Hero checks, MP bets $29.50, Hero ??? Problem was, over like 20 hands villain was 70/20, was sitting short and generally acting like a tard. I think I gave too much credit to the idea of some kind of Kx hand floating with overs, but can you really fold to a minraise on the turn here? I guess if we do call the turn, the river should be a b/f but I was hoping for a cheap showdown.

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06-23-2012 01:39 AM #2
bikes View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message i roll up Join Date Nov 2007 Posts 6,260 Location house	c/f

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06-23-2012 02:26 AM #3
BorisTheSpider View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Mar 2012 Posts 241 Location UK	Originally Posted by bikes c/f Not questioning the advice as such, just to clarify: - Don't you think if he floats Kx, picks up a king, then we check the river, he bets thinking he's betting for value? - If he minraises the turn as some sort of spazz bluff on what he could reasonably perceive as a decent bluffing card, then we check the river, he will fire again no matter what he holds? - Why is this a c/f not a b/f ?

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06-23-2012 02:32 AM #4
bikes View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message i roll up Join Date Nov 2007 Posts 6,260 Location house	TT. 99 QJ, K9, KT, T9 w/e last set was KQ KJ AK

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06-23-2012 02:39 AM #5
BorisTheSpider View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Mar 2012 Posts 241 Location UK	Originally Posted by bikes TT. 99 QJ, K9, KT, T9 w/e last set was KQ KJ AK Word

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06-23-2012 06:37 PM #6
daven View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message trolling freetrollers Join Date Aug 2007 Posts 7,194 Location soaking up ethanol, moving on up	isn't he pretty much 99/QJ/KT here almost all of the time when he raises the turn? fold river
	don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit allin, reload, repeat please read: http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
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06-23-2012 11:07 PM #7
rong View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Nov 2008 Posts 5,768 Location behind you with an axe	Originally Posted by daven isn't he pretty much 99/QJ/KT here almost all of the time when he raises the turn? fold river So you call the min raise on the turn just to cf the river?
	With a bit of luck, his life was ruined forever. Always thinking that just behind some narrow door in all of his favorite bars, men in red woolen shirts are getting incredible kicks from things he'll never know.
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06-24-2012 01:31 AM #8
daven View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message trolling freetrollers Join Date Aug 2007 Posts 7,194 Location soaking up ethanol, moving on up	Originally Posted by rong So you call the min raise on the turn just to cf the river? who said anything about calling the turn? and, yep, i;m with bikes on c-folding the river
	don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit allin, reload, repeat please read: http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
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06-24-2012 06:13 PM #9
kickass View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message Join Date Nov 2010 Posts 892 Location St. Shawshanks Infant School	With this turn sizing I can't see villain raising his Kx. Fold dat turn yo
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