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killerkebab
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10-04-2008, 06:28 PM
Post subject: Two pair on flop in difficult spot
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saw flop | saw showdown
SB ($2.90)
BB ($120.95)
UTG ($10.10)
MP ($27.85)
Hero (Button) ($54.20)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 3 , A
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.25, 1 fold, BB calls $1, 1 fold
Flop: ($2.85) A , 6 , 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB raises to $8.85, Hero raises to $23, BB raises to $119.70 (All-In), Hero calls $29.95 (All-In)
Turn: ($108.75) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)
River: ($108.75) 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: $108.75 | Rake: $3
I'm not sure whether stacking off with two pair is the correct play, especially since we're so deep stacked. Villain seemed to limp a lot and raise little, so I didn't put him on much of a hand - something like an ace and good kicker. I usually play FR (and this was a full ring table) and since a few players left the table in this orbit I've not left yet.
I don't have experience short handed and I was wondering if anyone here with experience shorthanded would play this differently?
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daven
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10-05-2008, 12:12 AM
Post subject: Re: Two pair on flop in difficult spot
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Straight Flush
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Originally Posted by killerkebab
Flop: ($2.85) A , 6 , 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB raises to $8.85, Hero needs a plan,
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this is where the important decision is. Talk about your options, and what they mean.
also, don't post the turn and river cards - it will influence the advice you receive
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oskar
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From what you've seen from him so far: Do you think he will stack off here 200bb deep with AQ, AK?
Usually a 400bb+ stack is indicative of a LAGG player who's running hot, and he probably has been involved in a couple of big pots. What did he reraise with and call with in these hands?
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The strengh of a hero is defined by the weakness of his villains.
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Originally Posted by oskar
From what you've seen from him so far: Do you think he will stack off here 200bb deep with AQ, AK?
Usually a 400bb+ stack is indicative of a LAGG player who's running hot, and he probably has been involved in a couple of big pots. What did he reraise with and call with in these hands?
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How so without other information?
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oskar
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Just experience. A 4x the max buy-in stack is very rarely a tight player.
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The strengh of a hero is defined by the weakness of his villains.
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daven
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Originally Posted by oskar
Just experience. A 4x the max buy-in stack is very rarely a tight player.
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yep, but this is probably a 200bb max buyin table. This is often (usually?) a moderately solid and tight player.
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killerkebab
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daven has it correct. I occasionally play 200bb buyin tables.
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4-of-a-Kind
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Just experience. A 4x the max buy-in stack is very rarely a tight player.
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I've never noticed this.. I've been 400bb+ a fair amount and I play 13/11. I just don't think you can really make an assumption like that (but I could be wrong).
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wellrounded08
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I was just at a table with 370BB's. sat for a little while. I just stacked some donk twice in a row. and I am pretty much a nit.
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pilipolio
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Originally Posted by killerkebab
I occasionally play 200bb buyin tables.
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I am learning at NL25 too, and personnaly I feel much more confident when playing 100bb deep. It eases this kind of decision and makes hand planning easier.
that's my two cents anyway!
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DaddyDeez
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Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
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Originally Posted by oskar
Just experience. A 4x the max buy-in stack is very rarely a tight player.
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I've never noticed this.. I've been 400bb+ a fair amount and I play 13/11. I just don't think you can really make an assumption like that (but I could be wrong). |
i think the lower the stake the more true this becomes.
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Fnord
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I don't hate flatting his check/raise to get it in on a good turn card. I don't hate getting it in either. What'cha know about him?
Probably just a cooler.
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