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JoeHaw
Old 09-07-2009, 07:02 PM     Post subject: Two kinda tough laydowns same villain #1 (permalink)  
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So villain seems like a bad 10nl reg, but he's probably a winning player- I have 465 hands on him and he runs 17.8/12.5/2.38 w 4%3bet and only 38% fold to 3bet. He cold calls 12%

HAND 1

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($18.00)
UTG+1 ParkaP ($13.50)
MP1 Earth2Amerka ($5.40)
MP2 elizapoker ($4.65)
CO clouder ($12.25)
BTN youcantwin16 ($16.35)
SB PaperPlanes1 ($13.65)
BB AHOHHC ($10.15)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 8 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to $0.40, ParkaP calls $0.40, 2 folds, clouder calls $0.40, youcantwin16 calls $0.40, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.75, 4 players)
Hero bets $1.40, 2 folds, youcantwin16 raises to $4.20, Hero calls $2.80

I think this is pretty obviously a set. He would 3bet JJ+ pre I think and TT is the only hand besides sets that would be doing this I think. Maybe like AcQc or AcJc but I'm not sure I can justify making the call here.

Turn: ($10.15, 2 players)
Hero checks, youcantwin16 bets $7, Hero folds

Easy fold right?

Final Pot: $10.15

youcantwin16 wins $16.65 ( won +$5.05 )
clouder lost -$0.40
Hero lost -$4.60
ParkaP lost -$0.40
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HAND 2:

Same villain, a little bit later

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG PaperPlanes1 ($14.15)
UTG+1 bronepoezd83 ($10.00)
MP1 Hero ($19.00)
MP2 v3rtigoIL ($9.40)
MP3 BennyD650 ($7.60)
CO kotayabu ($8.85)
BTN elizapoker ($5.40)
SB clouder ($11.70)
BB youcantwin16 ($17.15)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 9 players) Hero is MP1
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 4 folds, clouder calls $0.35, youcantwin16 calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.20, 3 players)
clouder checks, youcantwin16 checks, Hero bets $1.10, clouder folds, youcantwin16 raises to $2.20, Hero calls $1.10

I really think I need to 3bet the flop here- I don't really know what to put him on besides AQ, 22, 44 maybe KQ and I have the edge against that range. I'm concerned about being 200bb deep though, can I fold if he 4bets?

Turn: ($5.60, 2 players)
youcantwin16 bets $3, Hero folds

I'm not ahead of anything here except air really, fold is fine?

Final Pot: $5.60

youcantwin16 wins $8.35 ( won +$2.75 )
clouder lost -$0.40
Hero lost -$2.60
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RoyalProdigy
Old 09-07-2009, 08:14 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 you said smelled like a set right? So why the hell did you call his reraise? If you put him on a set you should have folded and not called reraise. You just gave him money......

Hand 2 I'm not sure why you smoothe called him their i would have raised it up even more, shove a 7 dollar reraise up his piehole with that flop, all day doggy. lol
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Old 09-07-2009, 08:38 PM #3 (permalink)  
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1)His cold calling range missed that board a lot TT-22,AQs-A9s,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,AJo+,KJo+,QJo. ( I just looked up what 12% cold calling range looks like)
your range also misses this flop alot lol. Like you would probably not cbet AKo here or KJo huh. Pretty good spot for villain to bluff or get max value from a set since your betting range is TT+ AcKc.
Just fold the flop

2) looks fine he might be c/mr to see where he is at with 66-JJ or Qx I don't see villain firing the turn without a Q after you call.
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I don't like raising cuz a 17/12/2 will probably not stack off here with QJ or KQ. Call let him bet the turn problem is the Q helps this youcantwin guy
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