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Old 02-01-2009, 04:15 PM     Post subject: Two examples of what NOT to do... #1 (permalink)  
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...when you're on tilt, have a case of the he's bluffing syndrome, don't really feel like playing but gotta get some hands in, etc...

No way I should have called this 4bet.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($10)
BB ($2.35)
UTG ($2)
UTG+1 ($14.85)
MP1 ($12.90)
MP2 ($11.80)
MP3 ($12)
CO ($8.05)
Hero (Button) ($9.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, A
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, 1 fold, MP3 raises to $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.40, 1 fold, MP3 raises to $11.10, Hero calls $8.35 (All-In), 1 fold

Flop: ($21.45) 10, K, Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($21.45) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($21.45) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $21.45 | Rake: $1.05


Put him on a mid-pair, maybe JT or AJ... dude was like 64/17.

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MP2 ($10)
CO ($3.35)
Button ($1.50)
SB ($12.20)
BB ($2)
UTG ($11.55)
UTG+1 ($22.85)
Hero (MP1) ($10.55)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, K
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, 3 folds, SB calls $0.85, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.80) J, 6, 6 (3 players)
SB bets $0.90, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.90

Turn: ($4.60) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $10.40 (All-In), Hero calls $8.75 (All-In)

River: ($22.10) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $22.10 | Rake: $1.05


Awful, just plain awful...
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Old 02-01-2009, 04:25 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Yet, I can easily spot weakness and use bluff outs OOP to scoop a small pot. WTF is wrong with me? Grrrrr....

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UTG ($10.70)
MP1 ($2.20)
MP2 ($1.85)
CO ($13.45)
Button ($11.55)
SB ($22.40)
Hero (BB) ($10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 6
UTG raises to $0.30, 5 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) K, 5, 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.25) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: ($1.25) J (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, 1 fold

Total pot: $1.25 | Rake: $0.05
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Old 02-01-2009, 04:26 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Big pots happen, don't feel bad about it.

Hand 1 is not that horrible if you have reasonable 3betting range, but usually on micros people have awfully tight raise/4bet range, so I guess you got nailed by KK+ there. If you don't know, how to respond to 4bet, then just flat call in position.

Hand 2 would be super standard if you got it in on that flop by raising and calling shove. As played flop, call turn and feel good pretty about it.
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Old 02-01-2009, 05:06 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Favorite quote from one of spenda's micro-stakes videos.

"Never call a massive overbet from a bad player unless you have an awesome read"
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Old 02-01-2009, 05:15 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 these are examples of exactly what to do when you get coolered by the top of someone's range:

RUN TO FTR AND POST ABOUT IT
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Old 02-01-2009, 05:20 PM #6 (permalink)  

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Favorite quote from one of spenda's micro-stakes videos.

"Never call a massive overbet from a bad player unless you have an awesome read"
I'm not sure i follow this, surely if we work on an EV basis and this is in a cash game (not SnG or tourney) more times than not the bad player wouldve a) over valued his hand b) tried to bluff you out...

mine would be

"Never fold a massive overbet, when you have a decent hand, from a bad player at low stakes unless you have an awesome read." But this could be because i have seen a lot of truely moronic play recently.
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Favorite quote from one of spenda's micro-stakes videos.

"Never call a massive overbet from a bad player unless you have an awesome read"
I'm not sure i follow this, surely if we work on an EV basis and this is in a cash game (not SnG or tourney) more times than not the bad player wouldve a) over valued his hand b) tried to bluff you out...

mine would be

"Never fold a massive overbet, when you have a decent hand, from a bad player at low stakes unless you have an awesome read." But this could be because i have seen a lot of truely moronic play recently.
well, the upside is small because you can sometimes catch a bluff or a misplayed medium strength hand
but MOST of the time it's going to be a huge hand that they don't know what to do with so they just overbet shove and pray for calls

you have to win almost 50% for that call to make sense
are you going to call an openshove in a raised pot with TPTK? because that line screams "omg I hab set all in"
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