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Old 09-12-2006, 10:32 PM     Post subject: TT vs. Shortstack. Call? #1 (permalink)  

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Villain is a pretty solid player who c-bets almost all flops. He had lost a big pot flush over flush the hand before. Do you call here?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with T, T. CO posts a blind of $0.10. Hero posts a blind of $0.05.
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Flop: ($0.90) Q, 3, 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $1.55,
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Old 09-12-2006, 11:15 PM #2 (permalink)  
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thats a big overbet on the flop, yeah you are probably ahead.. but id just fold.. there is still a good chance you are dominated, and even if you are ahead opponent probably has 2 overs with a decent chance of sucking out.
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Old 09-12-2006, 11:18 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I do, he prob has no Q and its cheap bad image.
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Old 09-12-2006, 11:21 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 I re-raise to $1 pre-flop cuz he's short and probably on tilt. Call a re-push, push any flop.

I don't like the call pre-flop. You don't have odds to play for a set, his stack isn't big enough to play poker post-flop and over 50% of the time over-cards are coming. I open push that flop, if he has a Q or overs good for him. As played I probably still call. It could be 77-99, AK, etc.

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Old 09-12-2006, 11:23 PM #5 (permalink)  
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woops didnt realize he was all in there on the flop.. i call as well.

supershortstacks like bluffing those spots, if he actually had a q or overpair he wouldve slowplayed.
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Old 09-12-2006, 11:30 PM #6 (permalink)  
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He cbets almost any flop? Pretty easy call imo
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Old 09-13-2006, 12:07 AM #7 (permalink)  
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Old 09-13-2006, 02:36 AM #8 (permalink)  

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I called.

But as a shortstack like that is not pushing hands like KQ,QJ, QT on that flop aside from missed brodways and low pp's.
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I re-raise to $1 pre-flop cuz he's short and probably on tilt. Call a re-push, push any flop.

I don't like the call pre-flop. You don't have odds to play for a set, his stack isn't big enough to play poker post-flop and over 50% of the time over-cards are coming. I open push that flop, if he has a Q or overs good for him. As played I probably still call. It could be 77-99, AK, etc.
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I called.

But as a shortstack like that is not pushing hands like KQ,QJ, QT on that flop aside from missed brodways and low pp's.
so he had a q? take a note on him and reload. many short stackers ai with missed AK/pps on flops like that. and c/r when they hit.
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many short stackers ai with missed AK/pps on flops like that. and c/r when they hit.
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Villain is a pretty solid player who c-bets almost all flops. He had lost a big pot flush over flush the hand before.
FWIW he's not a short-stacker
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Old 09-13-2006, 05:12 AM #12 (permalink)  
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OK, in that case i go back to my orig reply.

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thats a big overbet on the flop, yeah you are probably ahead.. but id just fold.. there is still a good chance you are dominated, and even if you are ahead opponent probably has 2 overs with a decent chance of sucking out.
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Old 09-13-2006, 09:52 PM #13 (permalink)  

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I called.

But as a shortstack like that is not pushing hands like KQ,QJ, QT on that flop aside from missed brodways and low pp's.
so he had a q? take a note on him and reload. many short stackers ai with missed AK/pps on flops like that. and c/r when they hit.
He didnt have AQ, he had 55 and I ended up winning the pot but was questioning the call afterwards.
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