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Old 01-26-2012, 07:11 PM     Post subject: TT overpair vs nit in BB #1 (permalink)  
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 villain is 10/5 over 182 ATS 20 FTS 100 fold to c bet 100.



$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
UTG ($21.51)
UTG+1 ($12.20)
MP1 ($10)
MP2 ($10)
KICK (MP3) ($10.44)
CO ($14.82)
BTN ($10.95)
SB ($10)
BB ($10.15)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) KICK is MP3
4 folds, KICK raises to $0.30, 3 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65, 2 players)
BB checks, KICK bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.45, 2 players)
BB checks, KICK bets ???? ...

bet/fold? how much? plan for river?
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Old 01-26-2012, 07:27 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 I probably check back turn planning to fold to leads and bet river when he checks again. the only hands we are going to miss a street v is 99(miracle to get 3 here probably) and a handful of combos of flush draws which yeah we'd like to charge but if his continuing range is like 88-JJ/couple fds you are way behind it anyway.

once he checks river should be safe to assume his range is like 99 or some second pair type hand like 77
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:54 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 bigger on flop, barrel turn cos there is thin value to be had and he isn't c-raising as a bluff ever = you can get value from the rare flush draws/99/AK/AQ in his range. Check back all rivers that don't give you a set. Checking back turn isn't awful.
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 01-26-2012, 10:00 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 why bet bigger on the flop?
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:01 PM #5 (permalink)  
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 and fold if he leads river blank?
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:07 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:11 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 i like to b/f ~1 and check back lots of rivers.


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Old 01-26-2012, 10:13 PM #8 (permalink)  
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Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($21.51)
UTG+1 ($12.20)
MP1 ($10)
MP2 ($10)
KICK (MP3) ($10.44)
CO ($14.82)
BTN ($10.95)
SB ($10)
BB ($10.15)

Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 9 players) KICK is MP3
4 folds, KICK raises to $0.30, 3 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65, 2 players)
BB checks, KICK bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.45, 2 players)
BB checks, KICK bets $0.90, BB calls $0.90

River: ($3.25, 2 players)
BB bets $2, KICK ??????
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:16 PM #9 (permalink)  
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:18 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 my plan was to bet/fold turn chk back river.....nobody fancy cawlin?
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:19 PM #11 (permalink)  
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fold now.
like I thought you'd change your mind. and obviously your right
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:30 PM #12 (permalink)  
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 Omg this line's soso FoS. Too bad he's a 10/5...
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:39 PM #13 (permalink)  
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 Omg this line's soso FoS. Too bad he's a 10/5...

EDIT: so nice I said it twice. Also ps it's an easy fold.
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:23 AM #14 (permalink)  
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Old 01-27-2012, 01:30 AM #15 (permalink)  
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why bet bigger on the flop?
i think his calling range doesn't vary vs 40c or 50c, and you're betting for value cos you think you're ahead of a chunk of his calling range.

as played fold river

edit: not even sure if flush draws are calling after the board pairs on the turn => would make turn bet even thinner than i thought
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
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Old 01-27-2012, 02:10 PM #16 (permalink)  
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i think his calling range doesn't vary vs 40c or 50c, and you're betting for value cos you think you're ahead of a chunk of his calling range.

as played fold river

edit: not even sure if flush draws are calling after the board pairs on the turn => would make turn bet even thinner than i thought
pretty sure our best possible equity on the turn v continuing range is 50% so I still don't like a turn bet
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Old 01-27-2012, 05:15 PM #17 (permalink)  
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 betting the flop larger than you did is a leak
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Old 01-27-2012, 07:13 PM #18 (permalink)  
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betting the flop larger than you did is a leak
is this because in this particular hand the bet-sizing increase would affect villain's calling range, or is it because we want to bet the same size with our c-bet bluffing range as with our value range?
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
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Old 01-28-2012, 04:49 AM #19 (permalink)  
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 turn play looks good. fold river.
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