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Sl4y3r
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02-09-2009, 05:02 AM
Post subject: TT hand from 10nl
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no reads except for HEM stats 13/0 over 8 hands no agg etc
I think the river maybe is a check fold as played, even though i didnt think he was drawing (he wasnt btw). What do you guys think?
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
Hero (UTG+1) ($11.41)
MP1 ($0.73)
MP2 ($5.85)
MP3 ($1.85)
CO ($10.08)
Button ($1.98)
SB ($6.43)
BB ($2.52)
UTG ($2.01)
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 10 , 10
1 fold, Hero raises $0.40, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.40, 5 folds
Flop: ($0.95) 2 , 3, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, MP2 calls $0.80
Turn: ($2.55) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.50, MP2 calls $1.50
River: ($5.55) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.20, MP2 calls $2.20
Total pot: $9.95
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Fnord
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You realize that betting the river turns your hand into a bluff right?
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Sl4y3r
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Originally Posted by Fnord
You realize that betting the river turns your hand into a bluff right?
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Thanks Fnord. I do now, i thought i was getting 'value' at the time deeeeeer. so check fold the river? hows my turn bet?
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Fnord
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He could be peeling AK with 2 overs and a gutshot.
Betting more on the turn to maximize value against 77/88/draws and maybe freak out QQ/JJ is probably prudent.
In small games with lots of calling I like Bet, Bet, Check a lot tending to fold to a river bet.
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Originally Posted by Fnord
He could be peeling AK with 2 overs and a gutshot.
Betting more on the turn to maximize value against 77/88/draws and maybe freak out QQ/JJ is probably prudent.
In small games with lots of calling I like Bet, Bet, Check a lot tending to fold to a river bet.
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Thanks for your time again Fnord you are teh pimp of FTR!
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bigspenda73
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well it's either c/f or b/f
I don't think we're necessarily turning our hand into a bluff, it's just really thin. Very thin in the sense that with 88 I'd def c/f and with 99 I would c/f much more often than betting.
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Sl4y3r
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Originally Posted by bigspenda73
well it's either c/f or b/f
I don't think we're necessarily turning our hand into a bluff, it's just really thin. Very thin in the sense that with 88 I'd def c/f and with 99 I would c/f much more often than betting.
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If i was going to b/f the river what would be the best betsize? 3/4 pot-full pot would be normal for me but hes shortstacking so i doubt there would ever be a fold here (can i say what he turned up with?). Im think i should c/f around 75% of the time against this type of opp.
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Fnord
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Not enough money left behind to Bet/Fold.
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bigspenda73
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bleh missed stack sizes
frankly I'd just stick it in vs some short buy at 10nl
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He showed QQ which was a little weird. Spenda would you overbet turn shove river with his stack size or just shove turn? maybe scare him as Fnord said before
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bigspenda73
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yea my bet size would have been like $2.15 which means there would be nothing left to do but put in the remaining $2.40 or so on the end.
I was thinking his range is like 77-JJ, but sometimes I forget how passive people are with QQ PF at these levels (not saying it's right or wrong).
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Fnord
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Hero raised UTGish in an online full ring game without a retarded table image. Flatting QQ doesn't seem that bad to me.
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Sl4y3r
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Thanks again guys tis much appreciated
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