The trough-Bigspenda73--4000 Posts of Degeneracy

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Where is place you speak of with great food but nasty whores?

How are you?

How many hands have you played in 2008? Boom theres a serious question biatch!!!!

Also fuck you for stealing my first.

Originally Posted by Da GOAT

How many hands have you played in 2008?

If I had to guess, probably somewhere in the neighborhood of 100,000 hands. Not nearly enough for someone who supposedly does this for a living, and certainly just enough to scrape by. I don't necessarily enjoy the grind of poker, which stinks because there's a lot of money to be won and frankly sometimes I'd rather sit on my butt than win it.

My DB currently has 1500 hands in it, I get freaked out very easily and reformat all the time because any time my computer has the hint of a virus I worry so much that I won't feel at ease until I clean my computer out. This has happened 4 times this year, plus my laptop crashed on me and lost my entire previous 2-3 years of databases I had on it (200k+ hands).

My biggest leak has always been lack of hands, thanks for bringing it up yo.

Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

How are you?

Just trying to live

Vanilla, Strawberry, Pistachio or Chocolate?

Also, are you up for a prop bet into qualifying into a live tourney next year? Any '09 actually, EPT, WPT, WSOP.

Say, $10? Its symbolical, obviously.

ask anything? cool!

should i call or shove? villain is 50/5 over 160 hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP2 ($4.42)
MP3 ($5.70)
CO ($7.87)
Button ($8.21)
SB ($3.30)
BB ($1.99)
Hero ($4.12)
UTG+1 ($3)
MP1 ($4.81)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, A.
Hero raises to $0.06, 5 folds, Button calls $0.06, 1 fold, BB raises to $1.99, Hero folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: $0.19

Results in white below:
No showdown. BB wins $0.19.

Originally Posted by Jack Sawyer

Vanilla, Strawberry, Pistachio or Chocolate?

Chocolate and it's not even close.

Originally Posted by AFchung

ask anything? cool

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP2 ($4.42)
MP3 ($5.70)
CO ($7.87)
Button ($8.21)
SB ($3.30)
BB ($1.99)
Hero ($4.12)
UTG+1 ($3)
MP1 ($4.81)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, A.
Hero raises to $0.06, 5 folds, Button calls $0.06, 1 fold, BB raises to $1.99, Hero folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: $0.19

Results in white below:
No showdown. BB wins $0.19.

**Edit**
You snuck your reads in on me, however, I'm not going to alter my post.

First, would need is a read on your opponent however without it we can still come to a decision.

What I like to do in these situations is try to build a hand range for my opponent and use a tool like pokerstove to determine my equity against that range. I then take my equity, compare it to my pot odds, and make a decision.

Let's say that our opponent will certainly do this with AA and KK, he will also do this 33% of the time he is dealt JJ, QQ, and AK. Also, every once in a while he's the world worst poker player (quite possible at 2nl) and once in every blue moon he has AQo. Make sure you realize the is definitely the tighest (best) hand-range this player should ever have. If it were me at the time I would go all-in over his shove to charge the player on the button the maximum in this spot.

Let's look at a very tight range:

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.198% 28.03% 12.17% 7198143 3126434.00 { AhKh }
Hand 1: 59.802% 47.63% 12.17% 12233549 3126434.00 { KK+, QcQd, QdQh, JcJd, JdJh, AcKc, AdKd, AsKs, AcKs, AdKs, AdKc, AsKh, AsQh }

Now let's look at a much looser range:

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.067% 44.68% 07.39% 45899511 7593030.00 { AhKh }
Hand 1: 47.933% 40.54% 07.39% 41652669 7593030.00 { TT+, 44-33, AJs+, AQo+ }

You can see how drastically our ranges change if we perceive this villain to be capable of this move with a larger/weaker hand range. We've now gone from a 59:41 underdog to a 52:48 favorite, making this call PF fairly easy/standard. I would have made this call, and if I were playing $2nl I'd have a bankroll in the $75-$100 range and not have to worry about gambling it up with the donkish players who make moves like this. Make sure you're always rolled for your level and these calls become much easier to make.

on a scale of 1 to 10 how gay is your avatar.

Originally Posted by thizzSantaCruz

on a scale of 1 to 10 how gay is your avatar.

It actually does bother me for a few reasons, however, I've been having a lot of fun with it. Other people really cannot stand losing money to it, and I tend to needle them if they say something to me.

Now, on the other hand, my FTR avatar might be the pimpest thing ever. Shout out to X-man for making it come to life.

Full poker story with graf etc. etc.

What were your Eureka moments learning this game?

Longest session ever played?

Did you reeaaally play gmml at 5/10 or was there some level like agreeing beforehand to ship it back to the winnar?

Originally Posted by badgers

Full poker story with graf etc. etc.

What were your Eureka moments learning this game?

Longest session ever played?

Did you reeaaally play gmml at 5/10 or was there some level like agreeing beforehand to ship it back to the winnar?

I have no graph's, like I wrote in response so DG I have reformatted my DB so many times, lifetime I've made over $20,000 at 50nl-200nl and 2/4-5/10LHE Pre-legislation. I have like one picture I posted on another forum of 10k hands at 100nl, but that's it. Sorry to disappoint. My graph this month looks like Joker's smile, sharply downard, then sharply back upwards.

Eureka moments, none whatsoever, to be honest I just keep picking up things as I go. In NL the biggest thing I ever learned was about pot-size manipulation, changing over from LHE this has to be the toughest thing as pot-control means nothing in limit.

I've played a few 6-8 hour sessions, probably 3k hands is the most I have ever played in a single sitting. I'm not like you, I cannot 24table

I believe I posted in the thread in the commune the real story behind the 5/10 thing.

Holy crap that was true? I'm so paranoid about getting levelled by poker players lol...

cool thread, nice to have you back posting again More questions later

Look at you regulars, comming into our beginner forum, using it as your own "FTR community" for your miscellany...

But seriously.

I have a question about this stuff, at MICRO stakes
having an "image"
bluffing
OOP hand selection/openlimping

thankye

Originally Posted by wellrounded08

I have a question about this stuff, at MICRO stakes
having an "image"
bluffing
OOP hand selection/openlimping

thankye

Having an image at micro-stakes does not matter at all. Frankly your opponents have to be good enough for you to take advantage of your own image, and they're not, so trying to create a tight image or some loose-aggressive image usually just goes unnoticed.

Bluffing is great against the right opponent. At micro-stakes you will find many extremely weak-tight opponents, however, some of them still call-down too much. Also, a lot of them check their bigger, value-bettable hands so much that a lot of the times you try to bluff you run into a hand you thought would never be in their checking range. Identify who you can bluff and who you cannot. Make sure and take detailed notes on the types of boards they folded or called down on.

Position is such a key part of hold'em (all poker for that matter) that we want to play extremely tight OOP. I tend to 3bet more than I call OOP especially against late-position openers. For example, if the player on the button opens and I have 66, I'll tend to 3bet instead of call. Being OOP makes 66 very difficult to play in the sense that we'll only win the pot when we flop a set and since we're OOP when we do flop a set it will be tough to gain maximum value. However, 66 rates very well against a typical button opener's range, is not that difficult to play postflop (i.e. will not make a lot of 1pr hands where you are unsure whether to stack off or not) and will take the pot down PF a good amount of the time. You won't want to 3bet people who call too many 3bets and also who tend to play aggressively in 3bet pots. Sometimes against good players on the button I just fold hands like 22-55 in the SB and save myself the trouble. I'll tend to call these in the BB because Im getting a better immediate price and don't have to worry about being squeezed (us calling in the SB and the BB 3betting).

I don't openlimp and do not advocate it, however, I feel there are a few hands where it's more profitable to openlimp than to come in raising, those hands are 88-TT. In terms of overall gameplay, raising hands like 22-55 UTG can be very helpful against set-miners. They'll typically be calling you with better hands PF but easily giving up to continuation bets postflop, which is always nice. Also, it's important to not be so tight UTG that you'll always be paying these set-miners off. While opening 22-55 UTG may not show a profit on these certain hands it will benefit your overall game by weakening your UTG range.

Name 5 long term posters that you are better than, name 5 you are worse than.

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Name 5 long term posters that you are better than, name 5 you are worse than.

Worse than is easy, if I had to rank 5 best players on FTR w/o anyone getting butt-hurt:

1. Sauce
2. Gabe
3. Marshall28
4. Jew Crew
5. IlikeAces86

Who am I better than, that's just a loaded question, how about the coolest FTR'ers I've met:

1. Halvsame
2. P4's
3. Swiggidy
4. Nutsinho
5. Ensign_Lee obvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

name 5 long time posters who you are better than

Finally.

wanna play some 5/10 ?

What type of poker do you see as the most profitable given the state of the games right now? PLO, 6max, HU, FR, playing on an american site.

Originally Posted by allabout

What type of poker do you see as the most profitable given the state of the games right now? PLO, 6max, HU, FR, playing on an american site.

Fewer players, the higher the win rate. The further the game is from hold'em may be the better.

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

Originally Posted by allabout

What type of poker do you see as the most profitable given the state of the games right now? PLO, 6max, HU, FR, playing on an american site.

Fewer players, the higher the win rate. The further the game is from hold'em may be the better.

so... razz?

how many hands of each level did you play till you moved up, starting with your first buy in

Why are you terrible at HU? And by HU I mean any kind of Hold'em. Any by Hold'em I mean any kind of poker. And by poker I mean life?

Do you regret getting with any females you have gotten with?

You have always been a proponent of guiding people to find the answers and not just giving the answers, and I would agree. So I can't really come up with a question that you can answer in the context of this thread without hijacking it so I will ask you this.


What question should I ask you in order to further my game? What is the answer, or where should I look for the answers?

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

The further the game is from hold'em may be the better.

I completely agree. Playing more Stud and Draw poker lately has helped me realize this. Omaha too, at least for now.

What would you do for a job if you didn't play poker for a living?

Hey Spenda, just wondering what your average income is per day or per week over the last maybe 100K hands or so, and at what stakes/limits? Do you strictly play Hold'em?

Originally Posted by allabout

What type of poker do you see as the most profitable given the state of the games right now? PLO, 6max, HU, FR, playing on an american site.

Well a lot of it depends on a person's style of play, the time they have to dedicate to the game, and the amount of tables they can handle.

Strictly by winrate I would go:

HU
PLO
6max
FR

However, this does not tell the whole story, a 3ptbb/100 winner at FR could easily out-earn a 10ptbb/100 winner at HU just from sheer hand volume.

Learning all these games can only help your play though, the fish tend to migrate towards what is fun and exciting, therefore PLO and HU are the games of choice, and as HU and PLO get more air-time on ESPN and other poker shows, they will become even more popular.

Originally Posted by tom

how many hands of each level did you play till you moved up, starting with your first buy in

I started at limit, .25/.50 online and was about a 3BB/100 winner there. It was such a slow process that I topped-up my online roll to $500 and move up to .5/1. Clearing bonuses and running 2BB/100 helped me get to 1/2 and then 2/4 ($2k roll) in about 50k hands or so. I then made it all the way up to 5/10 until I ran into a lot more aggressive players and eventually had a big downswing and withdrew my online roll and swore off the game.

HOWEVER, Neteller stuck $120 or some of mine online and I determined I would learn NL and grind it up. My biggest break early on was winning a $4 180man on PS for $215+ and that really helped me take shots at 25 and 50nl. I couldn't tell you the number of hands, but it was a good amount. I'm still not sure if I was a a winner at 25nl on PS/UB but when I moved to AP the games were so fishy that I started crushing for 10ptb/100 at 25nl and 50nl which helped me move up quickly.

Originally Posted by Mezza Morta

Hey Spenda, just wondering what your average income is per day or per week over the last maybe 100K hands or so, and at what stakes/limits? Do you strictly play Hold'em?

I do for now play Hold'em only, I used to play a lot of PLO, and in fact it was my game of choice for a few months last year. I play any game $100plo/nl or below right now because paying the bills really has hurt my bankroll and I've been travelling and slacking on putting in the hours. I think I've probably made right around $11k my past 100,000 hands.

Originally Posted by Rage2100

What would you do for a job if you didn't play poker for a living?

Up until 4 months ago I was a golf instructor. I am currently thinking about looking for work now, as I don't feel I'm suited for the life of a grinder. Something in business management consulting or anything finance-based would suit me quite well.

How is Grinder School doing? I felt I learned a lot while I was there, but I don't play poker enough to afford it long term.

name 5 long time posters who you feel you play no limit hold'em better than.

'rilla, your relentless lol.

Originally Posted by the spenda

I don't openlimp and do not advocate it, however, I feel there are a few hands where it's more profitable to openlimp than to come in raising, those hands are 88-TT.

So, it's more profitable but you don't do it? Reason?

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

name 5 long time posters who you feel you play no limit hold'em better than.

1. givememyleg
2. givememyleg
3. givememyleg
4. givememyleg
5. givememyleg

Originally Posted by Robb

How is Grinder School doing? I felt I learned a lot while I was there, but I don't play poker enough to afford it long term.

You remind me of me like 12-18 months ago, you seem to grasp a lot of the concepts that can make someone a good poker player but you do not actually put enough time into playing the game. I'm still guilty of this to an extent, if I truly put in a ton of a time I'd make so much more money, and for some reason I just fail to do so.

Am I better than you, or just luckier?

jk

do you like me?

yes
no

circle one

Do you think someone could ever become a great Online player without being able to talk/write Poker theory?

Ok. You've railed me Spenda, and you've played against me. Railed me at UB limit... played against me at 25nl and our Tourney.

What are your reads on me? Anything glaringly stupidly obvious I need to fix.

And don't talk about BR management, I had 20 BI's for that 25nl, took a shot got raped, and moved right back down. It wasn't terribad, and I earned it back before I cashed out! =p

express your opinion of 5 long term posters not named givememyleg, who you believe to be inferior players of no limit texas hold'em when compared to yourself.

Originally Posted by Ragnar4

And don't talk about BR management, I had 20 BI's for that 25nl, took a shot got raped, and moved right back down. It wasn't terribad, and I earned it back before I cashed out! =p

When taking a shot table selection usually helps a lot.

Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla

express your opinion of 5 long term posters not named givememyleg, who you believe to be inferior players of no limit texas hold'em when compared to yourself.

Alright:

1. Leg
2. Swiggidy
3. Rilla
4. Bigred
5. Salsa4ever

Originally Posted by bigred

do you like me?

yes

no

circle one

Originally Posted by silu73

Do you think someone could ever become a great Online player without being able to talk/write Poker theory?

Sure, some people just have great feel for the game, and others, while truly understanding the theory, may just have trouble putting it into words on paper (or computer).