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02-06-2005, 04:37 AM
Post subject: Trips got me! Again!
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Saint John
Posts: 82
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I lose more money to trips than to anything else. I never seem to see it coming, and yet again I place 4th in a SnG after getting the chiplead and follow a trips with my TPTK into an all-in. Just even looking at the words on the screen makes me feel so friggin dumb.
I Just can't seem to get myself to let go my pocket queens when it comes down 889 and someone goes all in ahead of me. It's a rookie thing I'm sure, but man....I am so.....
*calming down* I need help. Anything you got, really. How do all you pros out there tear yourself away from what would rather seem to be the best hand?
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bigred
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PROFESSIONAL TROLL
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Nest of Douchebags
Posts: 2,184
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General tourney rule of thumb:
You can push with top pair.
You do not call unless you have two pair (without the paired board) or better.
Circumstances obviously change this but this is just general rule of thumb. Remember, pushing gives you two ways to win, a fold or a showdown. Calling only gives you one.
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LOL OPERATIONS
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bigred
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PROFESSIONAL TROLL
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Nest of Douchebags
Posts: 2,184
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I have a feeling you're going to parade that hand around for awhile rippy.
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LOL OPERATIONS
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Excalibur
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Sweden
Posts: 81
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Rippy... Well, at least you're making me feel less lonely!
That's a good thing... Right?! 
//Ex
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I love the feel of Hold'em control...
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dalecooper
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,107
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I had basically that exact hand the other day, but I had 10s and flopped a set, instead of 5s. Otherwise pretty much identical. And it sucked for me too.
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TylerK
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: PEANUT BUTTER JELLY TIME
Posts: 1,791
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It's rare when TPTK is good enough to call an all-in with.
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TylerK: its just gambling if i want to worry about money i'll go to work lol
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gregor
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 95
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riptyde....that is a perfect storm type of hand, no way either of you was going to get off it.....if the board was double paired id be wary of the a$$ end of the FH, but in your case, that is extremely hard to get off of.....
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dalecooper
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,107
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I think I had an awakening this morning on this issue. We'll see how it plays out in my poker games from now on. I didn't save the hand history but it went like this:
- player 1 min-raises
- player 2 re-raises, also by the min
- I re-raise (from the button) by 3xBB, so the cost to play is now 6xBB. I hold pocket aces.
- player 1 calls
- player 2 calls
- Flop comes Q8x rainbow. Player 1 checks, player 2 bets 1/3 of the pot, I raise him more than he bet. Player 1 folds.
- Player 2 re-raises me all-in.
- Thinking this hand over, I type in the chat window: "The only thing that scares me here is a set." I eventually call, and unsurprisingly, he had a set of 8s.
Never mind that his pre-flop call of my re-raise was bad. He hit his set, I figured it out, and called anyway - talking myself into the notion that he had QA or something. This is maybe the first time that I really reasoned out that someone had the hidden trips, and I didn't act on it. But I think it bodes well for the future if I can make this same judgement and then (hopefully) act on it with a fold.
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DrumzCT
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Straight
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 159
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I seem to always be able to put my opponent on a hand and then convince myself otherwise.
BIG BIG game leak.
I have post it notes on my computer screen now with big scrawling reminders of self control, lol. Seems to work.
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