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chatzilla
Old 08-15-2009, 07:28 AM     Post subject: Tricky Spots - 2nl #1 (permalink)  
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 Yoyo, just wondering what you guys would do in these spots that I'm unsure of. I'd love to hear what you think!



Hand 1:

Villain is 69/0/1 in a very small sample of hands (20)

$0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($1.95)
UTG+1 toumi84 ($1.09)
MP1 slickorang69 ($1.62)
MP2 ecosonoro ($6.22)
CO Warrick69 ($7.54)
BTN jobe3377 ($1.05)
SB Changar ($2.77)
BB cb627cb627 ($5.43)

Pre-flop: ($0.03, 8 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to $0.10, 1 fold, slickorang69 calls $0.10, 5 folds

Flop: ($0.23, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.08, slickorang69 raises to $0.16, Hero ?






Hand 2:

Villains are unknown

$0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Sawa73 ($1.91)
UTG+1 Fitter-C ($0.67)
MP1 Frun3ik ($2.51)
MP2 ZZUB ($4.96)
MP3 maven82 ($5.00)
CO Hero ($1.85)
BTN Quickfire69 ($0.95)
SB Full Boat131 ($1.87)
BB VamprisaL ($2.00)

Pre-flop: ($0.03, 9 players) Hero is CO
Sawa73 calls $0.02, 1 fold, Frun3ik calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.02, Quickfire69 calls $0.02, Full Boat131 raises to $0.10, 1 fold, Sawa73 calls $0.08, Frun3ik calls $0.08, Hero calls $0.08, Quickfire69 calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.52, 5 players)
Full Boat131 bets $0.10, 1 fold, Frun3ik raises to $0.20, Hero ?





Hand 3:

Villain is unknown

$0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem
8 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG lifepulse ($3.70)
UTG+1 patti8100 ($1.98)
MP1 EveFat.KL ($5.31)
MP2 Marmel88 ($3.64)
CO srou25 ($2.95)
BTN Kotzen26 ($2.06)
SB nombriliste ($3.60)
BB Hero ($1.72)

Pre-flop: ($0.03, 8 players) Hero is BB
3 folds, Marmel88 calls $0.02, 1 fold, Kotzen26 calls $0.02, nombriliste calls $0.01, Hero raises to $0.10, Marmel88 folds, Kotzen26 calls $0.08, nombriliste calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.32, 3 players)
nombriliste bets $0.06, Hero ?



I look forward to your reply's

 
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Old 08-15-2009, 08:00 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 H1:
Your bet on flop is way too small. Flop valuebets should rarely be less than 75% of the pot. You want your opponent's mistake when he calls with a weaker hand to be as big as possible.
As played, I think you should reraise. You've only seen a minraise after a tiny bet, so there's really no reason to think you're behind yet. You will also beat his continuing range: at 2nl villains are capable to hang on with Ax and many PPs.

H2:
I'd fold, but others may disagree. Couple of reasons:
1) They could both be on overcards, but I think that more often at least one of them has an overpair.
2) You don't have much fold equity if you decide to raise.
3) It will be difficult to continue playing this hand as most turns and rivers will be scary for you.
4) You're not closing the action as Full Boat may still reraise.

H3:
Fold. You have a weak hand that's unlikely to improve. (You do understand that a pair of jacks here is a much weaker hand than a pair of sevens in Hand 2, don't you?)
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Old 08-15-2009, 09:44 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 Thanks a lot Fielmann. Yeah, I need to work on my value betting its a bit of a weak point of mine.

Your thoughts on the 77 hand reinforce what I was thinking so that's good

In hindsight calling the JJ hand 'tricky' was probably the wrong way to go about it. I was just wondering if it was as clear cut as 'your very good preflop hand has turned into a weak hand, fold.' Turns out it is haha

 
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Old 08-15-2009, 11:13 AM #4 (permalink)  
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I'd bet .18 on the flop in hand 1, anywhere from 1/2-pot size is std for a vbet i think. Also, i'd bet .18 instead of .20 because of the psychology (people think it's much less), although this could be exploitable at higher stakes. as played, i think I might call, the sheer act of bet/raising might fold out quite a bit of worse at 2nl as people dont really look much at bet sizing or care about their pot odds. not sure though

hand 2 I fold - your overpair is good, but it's not over enough, if it was like TT+ it could be a different story.

H3: fold
<JustinSKS> Tha'ts why I fold my 33 to 72o, because 7 high beats, 1 pair, donk.

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Old 08-15-2009, 12:02 PM #5 (permalink)  

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H1: I would bet more and then I raise, because you're ahead most of the time... I put him on a weaker Ace and I would try to get as much money as possible... In case he calls and on turn he fires again, I would be considering fold, because he is likely to be holding two pairs...

H2: easy fold, don't give a crap about it, doesn't worth it...

H3: I might be considering raise, because many people on these stakes tend to bet little on scary flops to find out how will their opponents react and this line is either very strong or very weak... with a raise you can take down this pot very easily and you will also send a message to other players, that you can't be pushed around.. but folding is also fine
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Old 08-15-2009, 04:59 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I think you're looking at FDs and Qx a lot in hand 3 and while folding may be the easiest option I don't think it's the right one. A lot of times I raise to the pot here and am okay w/ taking it down but I think at least half the time you're ahead.
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Old 08-16-2009, 07:55 PM #7 (permalink)  
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H3: Villain flop bet is SO weak (.06 into .32??). Know we have BTN action behind us but don't see how we can fold to such a small bet.

Think I call and fold to a big re-raise from BTN and then re-evaluate turn action.

If we were HU, think a re-raise/fold would be in order but that is probably spew here given another player to follow.
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Old 08-17-2009, 03:36 PM #8 (permalink)  

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 Hand 1 i personally fold Aqo utg/ As played though bet more on the flop
Hand 2 fold but if it were hu i would raise
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Old 08-17-2009, 06:34 PM #10 (permalink)  
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Hand 1 i personally fold Aqo utg
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I did it at 100nl FR but would never do it at 2nl FR
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Old 08-17-2009, 08:59 PM #11 (permalink)  
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 Hand 1: Bet flop $.15-$.18. As played I call reraise. Perhaps check turn and see what he does but this is where I suck, but I'm not ready to dump hand yet to a min raise.
At 2nl, play AQ UTG, no problem...you are well ahead of many players calling ranges...

Hand 2: Fold. You are caught in a squeeze, you dont know how FullBoat will react. He raise pre and bet flop into a number of opps so he likely has an over pair like TT+.

Hand 3: Make it $.12 - $.14 pre. Fold flop. You still have one player behind you to play. Nombrillste at worst has a FD...
He's not donkbetting into 2 opps w/o a K or Q...unless you have info to the contrary...
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:12 PM #12 (permalink)  
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In hand #1 it's an easy call at this point. His raise is small and you have a strong hand. I see nothing wrong with checking and calling this down if the bets are reasonable. If the turn gets checked I'd bet the river.

Here is a quick run of the hands you might be up against.


Some likely hands that beat you:
...a set
...AK or aces up (3 hands)


Some likely hands that you beat
...all Ax hands not mentioned above which equals 10 hands
...other BS hands






I can't see any reason to fold. OTOH, there is a modest chance that you are beat this is not a good time to go all in.
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Old 08-17-2009, 10:12 PM #13 (permalink)  
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In hand #1 it's an easy call at this point. His raise is small and you have a strong hand. I see nothing wrong with checking and calling this down if the bets are reasonable. If the turn gets checked I'd bet the river.

Here is a quick run of the hands you might be up against.


Some likely hands that beat you:
...a set
...AK or aces up (3 hands)


Some likely hands that you beat
...all Ax hands not mentioned above which equals 10 hands
...other BS hands






I can't see any reason to fold. OTOH, there is a modest chance that you are beat this is not a good time to go all in.
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