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scgolfer
Old 10-06-2004, 04:07 AM     Post subject: tough one anyone #1 (permalink)  
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Party Poker Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (10 handed)

UTG+1 ($62.10)
UTG+2 ($22.70)
MP1 ($25)
MP2 ($24)
MP3 ($37.70)
CO ($11.15)
Button ($53.55)
Hero ($24)
BB ($69.45)
UTG ($32.35)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2, 3.
UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.50, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, Button folds, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3.50) 3, 5, 4 (7 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $3.35, UTG+1 calls $3.35, MP1 calls $3.35, MP3 calls $3.35, CO calls $3.35, Hero calls $3.35, BB folds.

Turn: ($23.60) 8 (6 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 bets $15, MP1 folds, MP3 calls $15, CO calls $7.30 (All-In),

OPEN ENDED STRAIGHT FLUSH, BIG POT, GOTTA CALL RIGHT?
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Old 10-06-2004, 09:21 AM #2 (permalink)  
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You have 4 aces, 4 6's, 9 diamonds that'll help make your hand. 17 outs and about a 34% chance to catch it on the river.

2 people call, maybe one of them already has a 6 and is waiting for a 7, or 2.

I don't know, $15 out of your $24 seems like a lot. I would fold, but then I'm the guy who would've folded the pocket aces in that other hand you mentioned a while ago.

What did you do and what happened?
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Old 10-06-2004, 09:37 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I'm not sure I'd be calling here, not sure I'd even be calling the on the flop, mebbe I'm too tight on this, but then there is the lure of the straight flush.

However, someone may be on an A high flush draw - losing the bicycle straight flush, and someone may be on a made straight. Too many spoiled outs for me.
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Old 10-06-2004, 01:39 PM #4 (permalink)  
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You have 4 aces, 4 6's, 9 diamonds that'll help make your hand. 17 outs and about a 34% chance to catch it on the river.
It's only 15 outs. One of the A and one of the 6's are diamonds, so it's 9 diamonds + 3 Aces + 3 sixes.
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Old 10-06-2004, 01:57 PM     Post subject: Re: tough one anyone #5 (permalink)  
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OPEN ENDED STRAIGHT FLUSH, BIG POT, GOTTA CALL RIGHT?
If you don't mind the variance, check raise the pot on the flop. You might have the best hand, have 15 outs to stong hands and another two to trip threes. Plus, you get some folding equity from hands like K5 or K4.

I don't like the small flush or the idiot end of the straight, but you trapped about $16 and would be be getting at least 2:1 pot odds with probably a coinflip or better chance to win. If you get more than one caller, that's even better.

On the turn, it looks like UTG+1 might have hit a set on the flop or turn, so two of your outs (3's) are probably dirty.
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Old 10-06-2004, 02:05 PM #6 (permalink)  
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You're getting huge odds on your money here with the callers in front of you, but....

How clean are your outs? Obviously the Str8 flush will be good. The bicycle Str8 might not be if a higher str8 is already out there. Just hitting a flush is no good if somebody was chasing a better flush. You've got a ton of outs in theory, but only 2 that are squeaky clean. I smell at least one other guy who's chasing here. I'm really worried that your flush outs are tainted. There's also the chance that UTG+1 has a set and could hit the boat on the river.
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