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Tossed aside my read, and miscalculated my odds and payed.

  
 
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thirteen
Old 09-15-2005, 04:02 PM     Post subject: Tossed aside my read, and miscalculated my odds and payed. #1 (permalink)  
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In this hand I knowingly got in with the second best hand based on my read, then I further compounded the issue by miscalculating my odds after the flop and made a bad call with bad pot odds. I was running good before this hand and got caught up in adrenaline (fortunately i made good decisions later on that made up for this loss)

Hand Number: 224,024,637
Table Number: 2,862,757
Event Name: Table Cellini (#2026505)RNHB
Event Started: Wednesday September 14th 6:48:31 PM CDT 2005
Event Type: BugsysClub Real Money Ring Game
Game: No Limit Hold 'em
Stakes: $0.01/$0.02 Blinds ($0.01 Minimum Chip)
Seat 1 : tucutucu starts with $1.82
Seat 2 : bcruar starts with $1.45
Seat 3 : bluffcity starts with $2.48
Seat 4 : Payme80 starts with $5.29
Seat 5 : bbrendo224 starts with $0.57
Seat 6 : carpnter starts with $1.80
Seat 7 : thirteen starts with $1.98
Seat 8 : rm8t0 starts with $0.48
Seat 9 : parmstrong starts with $1.80
Seat 10 : tacotacotaco starts with $0.40
Seat 10 : tacotacotaco has the dealer button
tucutucu posts the small blind $0.01
bcruar posts the big blind $0.02
>>>DEALING HOLE CARDS<<<
thirteen dealt down 6c 6s
bluffcity calls $0.02
Payme80 calls $0.02
bbrendo224 raises $0.12 to $0.14 // he's been quiet and waiting, I pretty much know this raise in early position means high pocket pair.
carpnter folds
thirteen calls $0.14 // stupidly i decide i want to see the flop... It's about 7 to 1 for me to make a set. I didn't even have 2 to 1 pot odds, plus i put my opponent on a bigger hand then mine.
rm8t0 folds
parmstrong folds
tacotacotaco folds
tucutucu folds
bcruar folds
bluffcity folds
Payme80 folds
>>>DEALING FLOP<<< [ 8h 5s 7c ]
bbrendo224 bets $0.43 and is all-in // now i know he has over cards. I figure JJ or QQ
thirteen calls $0.43 // I have nothing but lowly sixes but I've been running good so my adrenaline is up... I figure i have 10 outs with my straight draw and miscalculated the odds at 55% for him to win with an overpair (it was actually closer to 65% him I think). So... I decide to call based on my 10 outs despite my read and the poor pot odds. BAD MOVE.
>>>DEALING TURN<<< [ 5c ]
>>>DEALING RIVER<<< [ Kd ] // this is bad, if he is by chance only holding AK and my read of a pocket pair was wrong then he's just beat me...
bbrendo224 cards were Kh Kc // Higher pair than i thought.
thirteen mucks hand //at least with a mucked hand the table does not witness my idiocy.
bbrendo224 wins $1.15 with a full house, kings full of fives
>>>SUMMARY<<<
Hand Ended: Wednesday September 14th 7:37:06 PM CDT 2005
Total Pot: $1.15 ($0.06 rake)
Board: [ 8h 5s 7c 5c Kd ]
Seat 1 : tucutucu (small blind) lost $0.01, folded pre-flop
Seat 2 : bcruar (big blind) lost $0.02, folded pre-flop
Seat 3 : bluffcity lost $0.02, folded pre-flop
Seat 4 : Payme80 lost $0.02, folded pre-flop
Seat 5 : bbrendo224 bet $0.57, won $1.15, net +$0.58, showed hand [ Kh Kc ]
Seat 6 : carpnter did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 7 : thirteen lost $0.57, mucked hand (cards were 6c 6s)
Seat 8 : rm8t0 did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 9 : parmstrong did not bet, folded pre-flop
Seat 10 : tacotacotaco (button) did not bet, folded pre-flop

The moral? Don't get stupid because your running good. TRUST YOUR READS... I should have tossed it preflop, and definitely should not have played it post flop with my read and into poor pot odds.
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Old 09-15-2005, 04:30 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Okay, your first mistake here was to call a raise which was under 10% of both your and your opponent's stacks. What this means is that if you DO hit your set, and almost certainly win the hand, you will only receive the rest of his stack which is only 3 times bigger than the call. This is bad poker because you will win 3x your bet one time in eight - I hope it's clear why that's wrong.

Secondly, if you have a strong read he has QQ-AA (and tbh I don't think you can have at the micro-limits, but let's assume you do) you have only 2 outs (plus a very small chance of making a flush or straight). The pot odds are so heaped against you that folding should be instantaneous.

Thirdly, when you call his all-in there are no implied odds which would, with your straight draw, give you better justification to call. This is, again, an obvious fold.

But you know you played it wrongly, which is good - I hope this helps you realise all the ways in which you played it wrongly.
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thirteen
Old 09-15-2005, 05:12 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Originally Posted by biondino
But you know you played it wrongly, which is good - I hope this helps you realise all the ways in which you played it wrongly.
Great points, Thank you. I figured by posting the hand and commenting on my play in the hand history would make me more aware of the mistakes and less likely to repeat them.
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