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kmind
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06-04-2010, 08:08 PM
Post subject: Top Two vs. Unknown
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Straight Flush
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This was like the 7th hand in on the table and of those 7 he was running 0/0. SB played every hand but 1 out of the 7 and never raised preflop.
I'd like to hear your ranges before I post mine please. I will say I bet semi-smallish on the flop to keep SB in as I figured the original raiser was finished with the hand.
No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
CO ($30.05)
Hero (Button) ($25)
SB ($25.86)
BB ($25)
UTG ($25)
MP ($48.23)
Preflop: Hero is Button with A , Q
1 fold, MP bets $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, SB calls $0.90, 1 fold
Flop: ($3.25) 5 , Q , A (3 players)
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $2, SB calls $2, MP raises $6.75, Hero calls $4.75, 1 fold
Turn: ($18.75) 10 (2 players)
MP bets $40.48 (All-In)
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JKDS
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hrm. i dont really know what hes check raising 3 way here. Looks alot like a flush draw with the T or Jack of diamonds though. Hrmm, weak broadways seem unlikely...and theres only 1 combo each of AA/QQ and im not sure sb is foldign a flush draw so id say he had an A/Q as well if hes callign your flop bet oop.
{AA?, QQ?, AdTd, AdJd, KQ?}.
Beats me. I cant really see what hes playing this way that we're afraid of...i like a call and praying for small black cards.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OngBonga
But no, jkds is lolvillager and anyone who wants to string him up is sighbad.
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donkfish
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Seems to me that villain is afraid of the flush hitting when he jams the turn.
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kmind
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Straight Flush
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Yeah I couldn't decide if it was "I'm scared of the flush getting there!" or "I'm scared the flush won't get there!"
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rpm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kmind
Yeah I couldn't decide if it was "I'm scared of the flush getting there!" or "I'm scared the flush won't get there!"
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imo the former is the most likely.
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rpm
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actually its 6max ignore what i say
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!Luck
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Full House
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Just a thought you have 53% equity against AA,QQ,55,AKs,AKo...
Also, I hate your bet sizing on the flop.
I think you can go a bit bigger.
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Stacks
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You need 32% equity for a call to be BE. Worst case scenario, he has 55/QQ/AA/AQ/KdJd, which you have 25% equity against. Add in a combo or two of AK, and combo or two of a flush draw (AdKd, AdJd, Ad,Td), and it's a call.
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Tasha
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Quote:
Originally Posted by !Luck
Just a thought you have 53% equity against AA,QQ,55,AKs,AKo...
Also, I hate your bet sizing on the flop.
I think you can go a bit bigger.
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How did you get to 53% equity? Do you mean after the flop or after the turn?
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Tasha
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Quote:
Originally Posted by XxStacksxX
You need 32% equity for a call to be BE. Worst case scenario, he has 55/QQ/AA/AQ/KdJd, which you have 25% equity against. Add in a combo or two of AK, and combo or two of a flush draw (AdKd, AdJd, Ad,Td), and it's a call.
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Hi Stacks,
How did you get to 32% equity for a BE?
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Hoopy
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
Hi Stacks,
How did you get to 32% equity for a BE?
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The effective stack on the turn is $17.25 - villein has shoved for this.
We have to call $17.25 to win $36 in the pot, ratio of 1 : 2.087, to get a percentage we do 1/(2.087+1) = 32%ish.
!Luck used Pokerstove to get the equity - it's a free program.
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Stacks
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4-of-a-Kind
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What Hoopy said.
(Amount to call) / (total pot after your call)
(17.25) / (18.75 + 17.25 + 17.25)
(17.25) / (53.25)
= 0.324 = 32%
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CALLAMENTS ldo
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Tasha
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Thank Stacks and Hoopy, I get it now although I don't quite get the shove. Why would anyone shove more than the effective stack? What does he gain by doing that?
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tomato paste carnage
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
Thank Stacks and Hoopy, I get it now although I don't quite get the shove. Why would anyone shove more than the effective stack? What does he gain by doing that?
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There is nothing to gain, really. It's easier to slide the bar over than to type in your opponent's exact stack. It's the same thing, just a different way of doing it.
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Tilt is poker cancer. You catch it, you die.
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kmind
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Thanks guys. I knew I was an idiot for even posting this because but I wasn't sure how tight of a range people gave him. Appreciate it.
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