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Maverick

03-25-2005, 04:55 AM Post subject: Top trips on flop

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Ok I'm working on plugging leaks still, at the moment its not getting the most out of winning hands!

I limped with pocket 9's and the flop came:

2,3,9 rainbow.

There was 2 others in the pot and I was last to act. First to act was loose but seemed to bluff a bit as well (showdowned some questionable hands after lots of action from him)

He raised 0.30 at a 0.10 pot, the other player folds. I was unsure what to do, I didn't want him to make a str8 draw on me cheaply if thats what he had.

I pushed $5.50, based on his play I really thought he would call. He did fold however. (Suppose this is overkill, heh.)

Should I have called his 0.30? Re-raised him 0.60 or something bulky like $1-$2?

How would you play this differently to extract more money from a hand like this, whilst still protecting you hand from draws. thanks for any advice!

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a500lbgorilla

03-25-2005, 05:37 AM

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You hyper over bet here.

Your heart was in the right place, though.

Pump it up 2.5~3 times what he bet.

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Maverick

03-25-2005, 05:44 AM

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thanks 'rilla, thought it was overkill.

I'll try the 2.5-3 raise to what my oppenent bets next time.

thank you!

aokrongly

03-25-2005, 03:16 PM

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If I'm playing against a large field preflop then I might worry about a draw. In this situation I wouldn't. I would call his bet and let him bluff at it again on the turn - and call that (or raise to pot size if I think he'll call it.) On the river, obviously raise/bet as much as you think he'll call.

You have to gamble a little. Flopping trips is as close to a sure thing as you'll get with action. Typically you'll see more people drawing to the flush than the straight. If he has A4 or A5, he's still drawing to a inside straight. I'm hoping he does have it and that an A comes on the turn or river. That's where the money comes.

If he has nothing, then you'll get paid very little. You string this out as much as practical to let him hit something and figure he has you beat.

You can't worry about everything all the time. What if you flopped 2nd high trips, how much are you going to worry about someone having a higher set? Extract as much money as possible and give them as much opportunity to hit something like a high pair.

If you're playing 7 handed preflop into an unraise pot and 2 of the same suit fall, then you need to bet harder - although, at these levels people may call anything on a 4 flush. So there's never such thing as a sure thing. But getting trips with a pocket pair is a monster hand and you should get as many chips as possible with it. The bad thing about this flop is that no one could have flopped a big pair, so it's hard to get action. So, give him a card and let him get something.

Maverick

03-25-2005, 03:44 PM

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Ok so just call their raises an let them latch onto what they believe to be the best hand. Ok I will try that.

What if they dont bet at me, what amount is a decent bet between making them pay to draw & keeping them interested in their draws. (assuming the pot is relativly unraised, containing say 4BB)

thanks again!

Spook

03-25-2005, 03:50 PM

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Post flop you should try to think in terms of bets relative to the size of the pot. This lets you easily control the odds you are giving to your opponent.

BB=100

Pot postflop contains 400

If you bet 200 "half pot" then you are giving your opponent 3:1 odds (400+200=600 compared to the 200 he has to call).

If you bet 400 "pot sized" then you are giving your opponent 2:1 odds (400+400=800 compared to the 400 he has to call).

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Maverick

03-26-2005, 01:18 AM

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thanks spook, the example you gave made it nice and clear for me.

Heh next time i'll be ready! cheers

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