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Old 03-07-2009, 05:42 PM     Post subject: Top Set on Drawy Board #1 (permalink)  
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MP2 is 37/22 over 53 hands and is fairly honest postflop. I can see 3betting him preflop given his range but I had already 3bet him twice before in the past few orbits. I honestly don't think I could have played this any better but I'm looking for contrasting opinions here.

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BB ($5)
UTG ($7.90)
UTG+1 ($9.65)
MP1 ($23.60)
MP2 ($9.30)
CO ($6.50)
Hero (Button) ($6.05)
SB ($9.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 7, 7
UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.30, MP1 calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.75) 5, 7, 6 (4 players)
UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 bets $1.50, Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, MP2 calls $2

Turn: ($8.75) 5 (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

River: ($8.75) A (2 players)
MP2 bets $2.10, Hero raises to $2.15 (All-In), MP2 calls $0.05

Total pot: $13.05 | Rake: $0.60
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Old 03-07-2009, 06:03 PM #2 (permalink)  
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I'd say through a value bet out there on the turn, so he'll come along with any of his draws that you want him to hit.
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Old 03-07-2009, 06:13 PM #3 (permalink)  
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I'd say through a value bet out there on the turn, so he'll come along with any of his draws that you want him to hit.
This is exactly why I didn't bet the turn. I wanted him to catch something on the river and at the same time show weakness by checking behind, hence inducing a bluff even if he missed his draw.
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Old 03-07-2009, 06:15 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 Yeah I would have bet a little bit on the turn. Other than that, it was well played imo.
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Old 03-07-2009, 06:24 PM #5 (permalink)  
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if you lost this hand there is no way he would have folded whatever you lost to anyway so I don't understand your question

betting or not betting the turn is not even a decision, it doesn't make a difference because you have $2 left in a $8 pot

you could make the case that he'll call with a random 8 because he thinks he has "the odds" to draw but he'll fold the river if he misses
but it doesn't really matter
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Old 03-07-2009, 06:54 PM     Post subject: Re: Top Set on Drawy Board #6 (permalink)  
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No comments on stack size please as I'm half stacking for 10k hands.
This is a silly thing to say because your stack size might be a pretty important factor is people's advice. For instance in this case i'd say just shove the flop due to ur read that he's honest and ur stack size.
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Old 03-07-2009, 07:03 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 Yeah I agree iopq. I wasn't thinking much about how little he had left at the turn.
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Old 03-07-2009, 07:32 PM #8 (permalink)  
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i raise the flop more on such a drawy board. somewhere around $5 probably. as played, lol, its inevitable its all going in.
 
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