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Top pair+straight draw to a reraise. Call or fold?

  
 
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Old 09-21-2006, 08:36 PM     Post subject: Top pair+straight draw to a reraise. Call or fold? #1 (permalink)  
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PokerStars Game #6354549793: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/09/20 - 13:01:11 (ET)
Table 'Vibilia II' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: shades5829 ($17.25 in chips)
Seat 2: CUon6thSt ($103.60 in chips)
Seat 3: Anon_E_Moose ($102 in chips)
Seat 4: Wutzge ($40.50 in chips)
Seat 5: AceBaron ($90.45 in chips)
Seat 6: toothman98 ($79.35 in chips)
Seat 7: Circles ($33.75 in chips)
Seat 8: BucRepeat ($98.50 in chips)
Seat 9: tutoy ($17.50 in chips)
Anon_E_Moose: posts small blind $0.50
Wutzge: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Anon_E_Moose [6d 7s]
AceBaron: calls $1
toothman98: folds
Circles has timed out
Circles: folds
Circles is sitting out
BucRepeat: folds
tutoy: calls $1
shades5829: calls $1
CUon6thSt: folds
Anon_E_Moose: calls $0.50
Wutzge: checks
*** FLOP *** [5s 7c 4d]
Circles has returned
Anon_E_Moose: checks
Wutzge: checks
AceBaron: checks
tutoy: bets $3
shades5829: calls $3
Anon_E_Moose: raises $7 to $10
Wutzge: raises $29.50 to $39.50 and is all-in
AceBaron: folds
tutoy: calls $13.50 and is all-in
shades5829: folds
Anon_E_Moose: ?
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Old 09-21-2006, 09:34 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 don't check raise. lead the betting instead because only a better hand will call or push on your check raise.

as played, you gotta fold cause you're not ahead.


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Look at it from the rereraisers position. Someone bets, gets called, then you come out and check raise (showing more strength then you actually have), and then he check raises the check raiser who just check raised the raiser/caller all in. Thats a lot of check raising so you know he def beats youre top pair no kicker. He prob flopped a set/straight, and at the least has top two pair. In any case, the fact that you have top pair is irrelavant, as another 6 or seven wont help.

So what this comes down to is do you want to push your chips all in on the strength of your oesd. An oesd that might be drawing to the split.

I think you know the answer to that.

By the way, dont check raise, lead the pot.
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don't check raise. lead the betting instead because only a better hand will call or push on your check raise.
Also you're creating a big pot with a crappy transparant draw OOP and will be awkward when you whiff the turn. After c/r'ing fold.
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Old 09-21-2006, 11:47 PM #6 (permalink)  
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Look at it from the rereraisers position. Someone bets, gets called, then you come out and check raise (showing more strength then you actually have), and then he check raises the check raiser who just check raised the raiser/caller all in. Thats a lot of check raising so you know he def beats youre top pair no kicker. He prob flopped a set/straight, and at the least has top two pair. In any case, the fact that you have top pair is irrelavant, as another 6 or seven wont help.

So what this comes down to is do you want to push your chips all in on the strength of your oesd. An oesd that might be drawing to the split.

I think you know the answer to that.

By the way, dont check raise, lead the pot.
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