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bair
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10-10-2005, 09:24 AM
Post subject: tilt = implied odds?
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Full House
Join Date: May 2005
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If you are playing with someone prone to tilting, do you ever factor that into your implied odds since if you hit you may make more money from that player in future hands as well?
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spino1i
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I do this all the time.
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Humphrind
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: May 2004
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First you have to positively be able to distinguish that the player is on tilt, then consider this when putting him on a hand. You are reading a player with different starting hand requirements, and different betting patterns because of the tilt. In short, it's like playing with a whole new player.
Yes, I always put my opponent on a MUCH wider range of hands after they have suffered a bad beat. However, the only thing this means is that I have to play better post-flop holdem. As far as implied odds and playing to draws. Do it less. It will pay off greater when you hit, but it will cost you more in the process.
The thing about odds, (pot odds, implied odds, all odds) is to put yourself in a situation of, "If I did this same move 100 times..." in tournaments, and in specific rarities like this one, it's best to look at expected value in the short run, not the long run.
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I don't know what they have to say
It makes no difference anyway.
Whatever it is...
I'm against it.
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Staple Gun
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Full House
Join Date: Aug 2004
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If your playing at a full table and a guy on uber tilt comes and you know he wil tilt away his whole stack quickly, you should only expect to make 1/9th of that stack on average. Therefore I dont usually call or raise only because it will possibly put someone on tilt.
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Greedo017
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Full House
Join Date: Jan 2005
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i was watching the WSOP, and jesus ferguson was asked what he thinks makes someone great, and he said well i think something that gives people an edge is being able to recognize when someone might be on tilt, or might be playing differently than they would otherwise play.
I totally agree. its important to be able to recognize the mental state of your opponent and adjust your game accordingly.
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