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Old 10-20-2009, 03:24 AM     Post subject: There's no getting away from this right? (5NL FR) #1 (permalink)  
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This guy was 43/14 after only 14 hands so not much history there.
I have to admit there wasn't much intelligent thought on my part during the hand. I usually don't give those small bets much credit b/c most of the time it's a draw or nothing at all, and I was gonna let him do the betting / catch up a little - which was prob stupid .
When the 3rd J came out I was sure i was good.

Could / Should I have gotten away from this on the river???

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Hero (UTG) ($4.98)
UTG+1 ($11.77)
MP1 ($8.78)
MP2 ($9.90)
MP3 ($8)
CO ($12.42)
Button ($9.68)
SB ($5.16)
BB ($4.78)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A
Hero bets $0.20, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.20, CO calls $0.20, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.67) 4, J, J (3 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $0.15, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.15

Turn: ($0.97) J (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $0.15, Hero calls $0.15

River: ($1.27) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.65, MP3 raises to $7, Hero calls $3.83 (All-In)

Total pot: $10.23 | Rake: $0.50

Results:
Hero had A, A (full house, Jacks over Aces).
MP3 had A, J (four of a kind, Jacks).
Outcome: MP3 won $9.73
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:52 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 The fold button would be practically invisible to me here.
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:55 AM #3 (permalink)  
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There might be someone who can find a fold, but it sure isn't me. There are just too many hands in villains range here to put him on the elusive J. But I don't like the flop c/c.
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:59 AM #4 (permalink)  
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But I don't like the flop c/c.
How come?

I think I'd raise the turn, try to build the pot.
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:00 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 bet the flop bet the turn shove the river
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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But I don't like the flop c/c.
How come?

I think I'd raise the turn, try to build the pot.
I don't like checking the flop because a pair on the flop tends to make small pp's call our c-bet. This may be the only street we can get value out of with our overs, and of course I want to make spades pay to draw. I lead this flop for .50ish
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:57 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 don't post results
bet-fold all streets
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

please read: http://www.philgalfond.com/lets-make-some-changes/
 
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Old 10-20-2009, 07:51 AM #8 (permalink)  
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Why post results? Why suggest you should get away from it?

I dont understand why you donk river.
Just playing to improve.
 
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Old 10-20-2009, 03:11 PM #9 (permalink)  
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don't post results
bet-fold all streets
This....
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Old 10-20-2009, 06:52 PM #10 (permalink)  
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bet the flop bet the turn shove the river
This...

Also, don't post results, and don't suggest that there is a need to get away. That's letting everyone know you lost the hand, and therefore decreasing meaningful discussion because we already know the outcome.
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Old 10-20-2009, 09:33 PM #11 (permalink)  
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Beg him to let you buy in for more, then go allin.
gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.

bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
 
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Old 10-20-2009, 11:36 PM #12 (permalink)  
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bet the flop bet the turn shove the river
This...

Also, don't post results, and don't suggest that there is a need to get away. That's letting everyone know you lost the hand, and therefore decreasing meaningful discussion because we already know the outcome.
gotchya. First time posting a hand and using that converter tool.
I knew i played this hand poorly and I'm way ahead practically all the time on the turn. and if i had won the hand i prob missed alot of value.

Slow playing is a bad habit i'm trying to break
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Old 10-21-2009, 12:08 AM #13 (permalink)  
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Genitruc is an unknown quantity at this point
 slowplaying isn t bad in itself, just try to figure out what hands you ll be called by and value bet when there are more hands that call in villain's range than there are hands that fold, especially when you're not worried about protection like on the turn here.
when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
 
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Old 10-21-2009, 01:29 AM #14 (permalink)  
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Keep thinking this way and you'll turn into this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhsXNsGx80s
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Old 10-21-2009, 03:01 AM #15 (permalink)  
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Keep thinking this way and you'll turn into this guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhsXNsGx80s
that fold is fine, and speaks a lot to how Durrrr views JC and that he believes he's pretty good at poker to pull that move. The best illustration of your example would be Hellmuth folding QQ PF against a single-raise 20bb's deep on PAD.
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