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vqc
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08-16-2006, 08:39 PM
Post subject: Is there ever a time where you would prefer to play multiway
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Preflop when I'm limping from EP/MP with scs/sgs/suited aces & small pockets played for set value. Implied odds, baby!
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with nuts? trips on monotone flop?
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almost never
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When I know I'm going to flop the nuts.
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Originally Posted by Renton
almost never
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with nuts postflop? i'd like 10 pl in the hand...
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AT-A2s, 22-77.
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Renton
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Originally Posted by BankItDrew
The decisions may be more sifficult, but there's more money to be had!
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Not really.
In a heads up situation its easier for them to put you on air.
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If there is a terrible loose post-flop player at the table, I want him in the hand.
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15 out draws to the nuts are great in multiway pots...
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Axs after a bunch of limpers who suck.
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vqc
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i was thinking about it and i came to the conclusion that if God gave u the option of getting every single hand u played HU, it would be a good thing to take.
In a 100 NL game would u rather have 8 limpers for 1 dollar each with 98s, or would u rather have 2 people (including you) for 4 dollars each?
if that was hard to understand
8 dollar pot to begin with with 98s 8 way
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8 dollar pot to begin with with 98s HU
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Turska
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I like multiways a lot with nuts or draw to nuts. I love when I can
draw cheaply and get the nuts 
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vqc
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ok right i can understand why u would want there to be 20 people in the pot when u have a royal flush
i guess im not able to ask the question/ make my point clear enough.
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TerryToma
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conversely-Definitely not TPTK/TPGK on a coordinated board.. I hate seeing 3-4 callers when i PFR with AK/AQ/KQ.
sorry someone already took my answer of Axs. I also have had good success with JTs.
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vqc
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Originally Posted by TerryToma
conversely-Definitely not TPTK/TPGK on a coordinated board.. I hate seeing 3-4 callers when i PFR with AK/AQ/KQ.
sorry someone already took my answer of Axs. I also have had good success with JTs.
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ok lets say u were on the button and there were lots of limpers to you, you would want to call here and play with position
but loets pretend that if u raised, you were guaranteed to get the pot HU.
Why would u prefer to play multiway over HU?
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TerryToma
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I'd like to limp 1 gappers, 2 gappers, any 2 broadways, Axs. Anytime when you have potential for nuts/hidden nuts is a good time. I like to get a str8 with 2 broadways vs someone holding 2 pr.
Axs I like having top trips vs lower trips/nutflush v lower flush/2pr vs AJo.
Hidden str8s are gold against sets.
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vqc
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Originally Posted by TerryToma
I'd like to limp 1 gappers, 2 gappers, any 2 broadways, Axs. Anytime when you have potential for nuts/hidden nuts is a good time. I like to get a str8 with 2 broadways vs someone holding 2 pr.
Axs I like having top trips vs lower trips/nutflush v lower flush/2pr vs AJo.
Hidden str8s are gold against sets. |
but arent u assuming that the only way to be hidden is to limp behind?
wont ur hand be that much more concealed if ur raising 86s from the button?
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TerryToma
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Originally Posted by vqc
but arent u assuming that the only way to be hidden is to limp behind?
wont ur hand be that much more concealed if ur raising 86s from the button?
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If i had sc/suited gapper I think a raise is better. I was talking about offsuit hands in the prev post, sorry I didnt make that clear.
A sc/suited gapper is a good hand to raise because then you are hoping someone with Ax of your suite folds to the raise, making it safer to play your draw/flush. Cbet most flops when checked too HU after isolating in position with these sort of hands.
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vqc
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ok i thought up of a better way to state my idea
when u are making a preflop decision, it is better to play a hand HU than to play it multiway.
y/n?
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bantam222
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Originally Posted by vqc
ok right i can understand why u would want there to be 20 people in the pot when u have a royal flush
i guess im not able to ask the question/ make my point clear enough.
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nah i think people are just being smart asses, it made sence to me.
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MiJ
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if that was hard to understand
8 dollar pot to begin with with 98s 8 way
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8 dollar pot to begin with with 98s HU
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i like playing 89s multiway...it gets paid pretty well against alot of opponents when u hit something funky ...
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when u are making a preflop decision, it is better to play a hand HU than to play it multiway.
y/n?
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90 percent of my hands i like to play HU,10percent sc's ax's kx's ..multiway..overall i prefer HU....easier to manipulate one opponent than 3-4
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benny999
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I'm sure it's more complicated than this, but these are my thoughts at first from reading this:
If you iso-raise, you might miss value from someone overvaluing 1 or 2 pair against your str8/flush/set. So if you limp, you want to make a monster against call stations, and can't really bluff.
But raising and getting heads up lets you bluff, and play hands as crappy as mid pair for value. So raising is probably better at nitty tables, and to increase value of hands in general, although you miss out sometimes if you raise Axs and would've had a flush over flush if you didn't.
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I'm usually looking for multiway pots when I decide to limp with hands that have a high deception value like 67s or even hands like 79o (nearly every hand actually ^^).
The reason is, unless I flop the nuts or a very strong hidden hand, I can easily get away. And if I do flop the nuts, there is a higher chance someone hit second best hand in a multiway pot.
I only do this if I can be quite sure no one will raise preflop (so usually when some players limp before me, and passiv players after me are probably also going to limp, or I'm in the blinds and everyone limped).
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