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ledfut
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08-04-2005, 08:22 PM
Post subject: Table Image (ring games)
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 62
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I've been an on and off player for the past year (mainly because of school and legal fees along with being a baseball fanatic) and I'm starting to adopt a looser style and playing the people an not the cards so much. I seem to have a lot of success in the first half hour or so often doubling or tripling up. However, once the table starts to turn over and new people start coming in I start losing. I know this is becasue I don't have the proper image with the new people.
What strategies do you use when 1 or 2 new people come to the table? Do you stay aggressive when you have position on them? Do you continue playing loose and fast and try to make them pay you off? Or do you just tighten up and wait to see what kind of player they are first?
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know the enemy and know yourself, and in 100 battles you will never be in peril.
know yourself but ignorant of the enemy, your chances of winning are half.
if ignorant of yourself and of your enemy and you will always be in danger.
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vaks
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 331
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ive always been taught that you get paid more if you switch your style up... and if no one perceives you a different way then you want them to, then you need to play in a way where that they will perceive you that way, you cant all of a sudden expect a guy to know what type of player he is.
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BIGandRICH
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Flush
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Jazz Club
Posts: 419
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i play my game against the players that are still the same, and i tighten up against the newbies.. preferrably until i've seen a couple of showdowns between them and another player. I hate confrontations against players i dont know, so now i watch for quite a while before even sitting at a table, or atleast sit out for a round. If more than half the table re-news itself i sit out until i've got more of a read.
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villain goes AI
i call with a set (i have him owned)
i win pot
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mdwav
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ont, Canada
Posts: 59
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ledfut, I think another factor to consider is who just busted out/left. A single bad player can affect your win rate a lot more than a few decent players. Let's say that the players that just left were the whales, and the remaining players are average. I'd sit out and observe the new players (as BigandRich suggested) or even consider leaving and looking for another table (if the new players are average or better).
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" Don’t misunderstand. A pro isn’t someone who sacrifices himself for his job. That’s just a fool.” - Reno
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a500lbgorilla
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JESUS TAKE THE KEYBOARD
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: This room is a good place to be
Posts: 8,379
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The image I love to have is of someone who only shows monsters. You don't make big bucks on your full houses, but it makes the game really interesting and easy. (my home game)
-'rilla
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Smithers, use the amnesia ray.
You mean the revolver, sir?
Precisely.
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outphase
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 949
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by a500lbgorilla
The image I love to have is of someone who only shows monsters. You don't make big bucks on your full houses, but it makes the game really interesting and easy. (my home game)
-'rilla
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I used this to my advantage in a B&M. I had cold cards for my first hour and then i see QJo in MP and i think it's golden and I limp in behind another limper. Flop completely misses, but prior to being dealt, a couple of players put me on high cards because it was the first VP$iP of the night. I bet out the flop strong and everyone folded to me 
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Originally Posted by lambchopdc
Lets stop talking ABC poker and move on to D, E, and F.
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DimitriT
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Full House
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 614
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I try not to change anything about my play w.r.t a new plr. I play 25NL and vary my play from TAG to LAG. In 25NL the table is constantly turning over and I just assume the new players are typical loose/weak until they've shown otherwise.
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TeddySpades
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 2
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I would like to improve on my table image for sure. In tournament play I start out very quite and play tight. The less the players, the more I tend to loosen up. When it get's down to the final table, I feel more comfortable. I would really like to feel as I do with less people when there are many players left. Does anyone have any tips on improving table image at a full table or should I continue to keep the same?
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Miffed22001
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Marry Me Cheryl!!!
Posts: 8,181
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When new players come to the table i continue or move back to tight for a few hands until ive seen them play post flop or raise. Just to get a feel or read of their play.
If i happen to get in a hand with them (especially a raised one then if i hit i check raise if possible) Its probably the only occasion i specifically make use of the check raise so as to be able to gauge what he has or how he plays.
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TeddySpades
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 2
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What if your playing against a very aggresive player that you don't know and thier image is very intimidating? The player bets big and plays money hands causing most to fold. He usally wins pots without even having to show his cards.
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Rondavu
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,053
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
I really think they key in the ring is being willing and able to ADAPT. I like to play tight for a few orbits and then shift into high gear for a few...then slow back down...I agree its a good idea to show your monsters to establish a 'legit' table image...then to follow that up with aggression/bluffs. Timing is everything
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Ya awareness is everything. Be especially aware of what's being said in the chat. People expose their emotions about your moves and cards. They say subtle stuff like...
"What did you have?"
"Damn it!"
"Here he is stealing again"
"My ass just gave birth to your twin scumbag"
and the always classic (Actually said to me)...
"You bet, so I call"
Take advantage of every possible leverage you can. It's all +EV. Just when they get fed up, feed them a monster for breakfast. There's nothing like someone busting and dissapearing from the table because you played them right.
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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