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Strong draw vs LAGG [25NL]

  
 
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Old 07-09-2010, 09:11 AM     Post subject: Strong draw vs LAGG [25NL] #1 (permalink)  
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Villain is running 40/30 afq 55, 44% fold to 3bet over a smallish sample. Opens up literally every button when folded to him. Haven't seen him show down any key hands so no other notes on villain.


Bodog $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 795135
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CO: $16.30
BTN: $144.66
Hero (SB): $25.40
BB: $18.05
UTG: $29.55

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with T Q
2 folds, BTN raises to $0.85, Hero raises to $3.00, 1 fold, BTN calls $2.15

Now that I look back at it preflop is meh since he rarely folds to 3bets & my hand isn't that strong.

Flop: ($6.25) 8 9 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.50, BTN calls $4.50

Comments on bet sizing?

Turn: ($15.25) A (2 players)
Hero bets $9.50, BTN raises to $137.16 all in, Hero calls $8.40 all in

I felt that the ace would be a good barrel card and would probably fold out 9x & pp's. C/f seems weak, c/c is even weaker, c/r is probably worst given the effective stacks. With the range I've given him (99-88, 55, AhQh, AhJh, AhTh, Ah9h, Ah8h, Ah7h, Ah6h, Ah5h, Ah4h, Ah3h, Ah2h, J9s, T9s, AQo-A8o, A5o, K9o, Q9o, J9o, T9o), I've got about 27% equity which justifies calling the AI...



Results:
DEALING RIVER [4s]
Hero: shows [Th Qh]
Villain: shows [9d Jd]
Hand 1958762658:
Villain: wins main pot($49.05)
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Old 07-09-2010, 09:20 AM #2 (permalink)  
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So if you don't like pre-flop in this hand, then how do you plan on playing against this Villain here in the future? What are you 3-betting (and for how much), what are you 5-betting, what are you calling with, etc.
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Old 07-09-2010, 12:37 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Spoon kinda hits it on the head with other things to be asking yourself in this spot vs this guy/this type.

What's your question in this hand though? Seems played fine, except for your 3bet pre, which is too large imo.

Flop bet sizing is fine.

Turn seems fine.
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Old 07-09-2010, 05:15 PM #4 (permalink)  
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PREFLOP.

I think you can make a decent case for going in any one of three different directions....fold, call or raise. If I call I'm planning to CR the flop. This is especially true if I flop a draw. If I flop a mediocre hand I might just call or if I hate the flop for reason I might fold. If I'm going to go forward with the hand I usually like to make some sort of move that will give me a chance to win the hand.


The advantage of ReR preflop is that your opp is raising with light maybe as much as half the time, this will allow you take the hammer from him and make him deal with your aggression -- make him hit the flop --- or make a risky bluff. The big disadvantage is you are getting away from the small hand small pot, big hand big pot, philosophy which I believe is very important.


THE FLOP.

The nature of this flop makes me think I'm pot committed. Some options include:

1. Go all in
2. Overbet half your stack making it clear you are pot committed
3. Check with intent of CR all in
4. Make standard CB
5. Check with the intent of calling nearly any bet
6. Check with the intent of calling based on conservative pot odds

I think I like number 4 above the best. Although I think you could make a case for number 1. With this flop you aren't going anywhere right ? So why not go all in ? Always better to go all in then call all in.


Your opponent would be very hard pressed to call an all in. If are called there are very few hands that would have in less than 30% equity...which means you need very little fold equity to be profitable.



The TURN.

The Ac is not a good card. If he peeled with a hand like A-strong we're screwed. OTOH his flop call could indicate a pair of some sort.

You bet, he raises all in. YUCK! What a disgusting development. This is just a cooler there is no way we can get away from the hand now. By my calculations we are getting the right odds have to call. The hand we are most worried about is an Ace suited in hearts.


This is one of those hands where we think we made reasonable decisions at each stage but the way things turn out we wish things had gone differently. In retrospect we might have gone all in on the flop. But that might be playing results.


Someone else might argue for a fold preflop. These battles around the blinds become pissing contests they often don't allow you to play the small hand small pot style, it's better to let the iffy hands go.
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