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Old 06-07-2009, 01:01 AM     Post subject: Straight on a paired board. #1 (permalink)  
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2nd hand at table so no reads.

Preflop is standard, when he checks it to me I cbet to take it down right there. I'm not sure if I should have 2 barreled the turn once the board paired, at 2NL at not sure its that profitable.

The river is at least a call getting over 5 to 1, should I shove here?

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MP ($6.06)
CO ($5.09)
Hero (Button) ($1.97)
SB ($2.26)
BB ($7.25)
UTG ($2.71)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, A
UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero bets $0.10, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.23) Q, 9, 10 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.18, UTG calls $0.18

Turn: ($0.59) 10 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($0.59) 8 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.25, UTG raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.69 (All-In), UTG calls $1.19

Total pot: $3.97 | Rake: $0.15
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Old 06-07-2009, 03:09 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Based on his actions, I can't put him on a set or two pair with 10's on the flop so chances are your hand is good. About 90% of the time your hand is good unless he is the King of Slow-Play.
 
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Old 06-07-2009, 04:21 AM #3 (permalink)  
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I'd just call the river minraise
there is a chance he has:
88 (pair + gutter on the flop)
TT (he feels like he has to slowplay)
some slowplay on the flop

you have to ask "which hands pay me off?"
you're shoving into a split most of the time
he has to have exactly Tx or 76
but which Tx hands could he have here? you only beat AT and KT and T7s

Board: Qd 9s Td Tc 8c

Hand 0: 52.941% { 88, ATs, KJs, T7s+, 76s, ATo, KJo, T8o+, 76o }
Hand 1: 47.059% { AsJd }

I didn't include splits like JT
also, if he's sitting there with T7 he might just call river without raising so his check/raise says that he has the nuts
if he were to lead river for pot, shoving would be better than it is now, but still may not even be EV+, but just break-even
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Old 06-07-2009, 02:42 PM #4 (permalink)  
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Thanks golfguy and iopq, I really need to start thinking my value betting through more, here I just didn't think about what could he really pay me off with, not thinking enough.

Also 2NL river c/minraises from what I've seen usually are the nuts.
 
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Thanks golfguy and iopq, I really need to start thinking my value betting through more, here I just didn't think about what could he really pay me off with, not thinking enough.

Also 2NL river c/minraises from what I've seen usually are the nuts.
if the board didn't pair it would have been fine
but his two pairs now made a boat or got counterfeitted so now he's not raising Q9 (since even AQ beats it now) and he's got you beat with QT/T9
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