Originally Posted by Warpe

Play 25nl. I used to play SNGs almost exclusively but find ring a lot more profitable (and interesting, though perhaps not as exciting). Stars has a reputation of being a somewhat tougher game but I don't know if it's deserved. I play SNGs on Stars and ring on Party.

Originally Posted by Renton

I started out in tournaments, believe myself to be a decent tournament player (I maintained a very respectable ROI playing the 10/1 sngs on party), but quit recently because I didn't have the bankroll.

You have to have a very large bankroll (comparatively) to play tournaments profitably. You have to be able to weather through weeks without a big cash. Unfortunately though, tournaments are really, really fun and addictive so I'm always trying to manufacture a bogus reason to continue playing them.

Ring on the other hand, is relatively low upkeep. You only need 15 or twenty buyins to play ring safely (as opposed to 40-50 to play sngs or up to 100 to play MTTs) so it offers the most potential to safely make a good bit of money. Sadly though, if you play ring long enough, you essentially become a bot. Ring play is poker in a vacuum, with the environment rarely changing (except, of course, the playing styles of the opponents at your table).

In tournaments you have to constantly be changing to the ever increasing blinds or the ever decreasing number of players, which makes things so interesting and fun.

I have made $1700 in less than three weeks (playing 25nl and 50nl) playing ring, and I honestly don't think I could have made that much in any other way (unless I took down 1st place in a big tourney, but you can't count on that to happen in such a short time).

Bottom line is, if you are capable of making consistant, repetitive, profitable decisions, then ring is for you.

I plan on amassing a very solid bankroll (around 10-15k) and then I am going to allocate a couple thousand of that and get back into tourneys again. I think I will always depend on full ring for consistant, dependable money.

Originally Posted by Renton

100nl ==== 1/2 NL

Originally Posted by Les_Worm

At most places 100NL has .5/1 blinds.

For cash games 20 buyins is good for low stakes.

Originally Posted by dan

i was like u once, had a roll of $100 playing $5 - $1 sng's and mtt's...then i started bonuswhoring so i basically needed to play cash games...i started at $25nl and my first 3 sessions i got stacked, i tightened my game up abit and started winning, eventually i got my roll to $1000 from playing $25nl then i moved to $50NL and my roll is sitting at $1300, i strongly suggest u move ur game from Sngs and mtt's to cashgames.