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Old 08-11-2010, 09:03 PM     Post subject: stars micro race to glory #1 (permalink)  
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 i'm grinding a fullring roll on stars. Think i'll stick to each level for 10buyins, but wanna move up fast. So, if you feel generous, please call my value bets. Oh, and stop moaning that the games are tough.

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MP2 ($12.25)
CO ($20.31)
Button ($10.28)
Hero (SB) ($11.83)
BB ($10)
UTG ($14.18)
MP1 ($10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, A
2 folds, MP2 bets $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.90, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.90) 2, 6, 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $1, MP2 calls $1

Turn: ($3.90) K (2 players)
Hero bets $2.50,
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 08-11-2010, 09:21 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 Good scare card. But he prob has AK in his range and if he is bad might have KQ as well, along with 77-QQ and do you have any reason to suspect that he can fold 88-QQ to another barrel?
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Old 08-11-2010, 09:32 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 i have a read
villain is weak-tight cos he's reg-stat-styling at the stars micros
15-8 over 25 or something
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 08-12-2010, 02:20 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 I just rly don't like the 3b pre. Is it for value?
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Old 08-12-2010, 03:12 AM #5 (permalink)  
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 Bigger 3bet pre
As played, $1.50 flop
As played, $3.00 turn
shove river

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flat pre
c/f
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Old 08-12-2010, 03:33 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 jeez these games are too tough srsly
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:33 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 3B'ing here is pretty bad without history/better reads since you have no idea how he reacts in these spots. Having said that if you are choosing to 3B and c-bet this flop this is a mandatory Double-Barrel on this turn card and I would bet bigger for sure.


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Old 08-12-2010, 04:49 AM #8 (permalink)  
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jeez these games are too tough srsly
it's rough out there
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MP1 ($10.49)
MP2 ($8.43)
CO ($9.80)
Hero (Button) ($11.83)
SB ($18.16)
BB ($5.49)
UTG ($6.10)
UTG+1 ($9.56)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, 4
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero bets $0.50, 1 fold, BB calls $0.40, UTG+1 calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.55) 4, Q, K (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 bets $0.50, Hero raises to $2.40, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls $1.90

Turn: ($6.35) 9 (2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $6.90, UTG+1 calls $6.66 (All-In)

River: ($19.67) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $19.67 | Rake: $0.96

Results:
Hero had K, 4 (two pair, Kings and nines).
UTG+1 had A, Q (two pair, Queens and nines).
Outcome: Hero won $18.71
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
allin, reload, repeat

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Old 08-12-2010, 06:38 AM #9 (permalink)  
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Old 08-12-2010, 11:53 AM #10 (permalink)  
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 I like this, and why would we go bigger turn? You wanna give him 2;1 on the river when we inevitably shove it?
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 oh and 3b pre is a bluff fwiw to the rest of u
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:20 PM #12 (permalink)  
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The more I think about the 3bet with AQ, the more I like it. Daven has a read villain is weaktight, so his raising range is going to be pretty strong, and we're dominated by a lot of it and the parts that we're flipping against (66-JJ) its hard to extract when we hit, plus we block a ton of his continuing range, and he likely gives up post a decent bit.

Double barreling is definitely the best play since he'll be floating with 77-QQ (maybe 33-55 if he calls those pre) and he's going to fold 77-TT/JJ a lot to our barrel. Plus, even if he continues with JJ/QQ we can shove river and he's going to have a helluva time calling.
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:41 PM #13 (permalink)  
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The more I think about the 3bet with AQ, the more I like it. Daven has a read villain is weaktight, so his raising range is going to be pretty strong, and we're dominated by a lot of it and the parts that we're flipping against (66-JJ) its hard to extract when we hit, plus we block a ton of his continuing range, and he likely gives up post a decent bit.

Double barreling is definitely the best play since he'll be floating with 77-QQ (maybe 33-55 if he calls those pre) and he's going to fold 77-TT/JJ a lot to our barrel. Plus, even if he continues with JJ/QQ we can shove river and he's going to have a helluva time calling.
This sums it up just fine
[00:29] <daven> dc, why not check turn behind
[00:30] <DC> daven
[00:30] <DC> on my hand?
[00:30] <daven> yep
[00:30] <DC> because I am drunk
[00:30] <daven> nice reason
[00:30] <daven> no further questions
[00:30] <yaawn> ^^Lol

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Old 08-12-2010, 04:49 PM #14 (permalink)  
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 itt we teach n00bz to triple barrel against unknowns.
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Old 08-12-2010, 07:41 PM #15 (permalink)  
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i have a read
villain is weak-tight cos he's reg-stat-styling at the stars micros
15-8 over 25 or something
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Daven has a read villain is weaktight
25 hands is completely insignificant in order to label this player as weak-tight.

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The more I think about the 3bet with AQ, the more I like it. Daven has a read villain is weaktight, so his raising range is going to be pretty strong, and we're dominated by a lot of it and the parts that we're flipping against (66-JJ) its hard to extract when we hit, plus we block a ton of his continuing range, and he likely gives up post a decent bit.
We don't exactly block a 'ton' of his preflop continuing range when you said yourself he can still have 77-QQ when he calls our 3B (not even considering he may flat with 22-66, AA/KK IP)

We block AK/AQ/AA/QQ (he may fold AQ) and that leaves him with (at most) 28 combos of those hands.

The rest constitutes anywhere from 33 (77-QQ) to 72 (22-AA) combos

So best case we block 28/61 -> 46%, and worst case we block 28/110 -> 25%

My point is we don't know enough about his range regarding calling 3B's IP enough in order to justify 3B'ing in the first place, and choosing to c-bet/DB/TB without specific reads is pretty bad, though like I said on this particular turn card DB'ing is best since it strengthens your relative hand range, and that in and of itself is a good enough reason to bet.

Shoving river when he calls the turn bet though seems awful, as an unknowns range for calling a 3B, and calling two barrels especially on this board is going to be ridiculously strong, and he may even 'mistakenly' call a river shove with JJ-QQ.


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