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Old 11-25-2008, 02:33 PM     Post subject: Stacking off on flops with TPTK and bottom two? #1 (permalink)  
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Hand One
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Villain is 34/3 over 40+ hands

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saw flow

UTG ($17.92)
Hero (MP) ($5.38)
CO ($2.37)
Button ($8.99)
SB ($11.48)
BB ($10.78)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A, K
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Button calls $0.20, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.47) J, K, 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.30, Button calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.07) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.85, Button raises to $1.70, Hero raises to $4.88 (All-In), Button calls $3.18

River: ($10.83) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $10.83 | Rake: $0.50


Hand Two
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Villain is 50/2 over 60 hands

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Button ($3.11)
SB ($3.85)
Hero (BB) ($5)
UTG ($2.73)
MP ($4.93)
CO ($2.17)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8, 6
4 folds, SB calls $0.03, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.10) 9, 8, 6 (2 players)
SB bets $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, SB raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $4.95 (All-In), SB calls $3.30 (All-In)

Turn: ($7.70) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($7.70) 10 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $7.70 | Rake: $0.35
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Old 11-25-2008, 02:56 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Assuming typical loose passive types:

hand 1 readless I probably call turn. He isn't likely to suddenly decide to raise with a FD so u are behind a lot. Only hand he *might* be doing this for value that u beat is KQ.

hand 2 the shove is bad imo as it folds out everything u beat and nothing u are ahead of. And that's assuming a 50/2 is even capable of b/3b worse, which he probably isn't.
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Old 11-25-2008, 03:49 PM #3 (permalink)  
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Hand one smells like a stack-a-donk line, Im trying to keep the pot as small as possible.

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Old 11-26-2008, 02:44 AM #4 (permalink)  
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Hand #1 I fold the turn. I've no clue what Villian's got, but he thinks he can beat a pair of kings.

Hand #2 I just call the 3 bet on the flop. Unless my hand improved, I'd just check/fold after that. Considering stakes and betting pattern, I'd guess villian flopped a straight.
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Old 11-26-2008, 03:48 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Hand #2 I just call the 3 bet on the flop. Unless my hand improved, I'd just check/fold after that.
So you are calling .25 to win .85 solely to draw to 4 outs? Doesn't sound very +ev to me.
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Old 11-27-2008, 04:53 AM #6 (permalink)  

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Hand One: Villian could have Q-10 or something like j-9 u should try and play a small pot when facing a button call from a loose player on a board that hits a loose players range hard

Hand Two: Once he min raises it means he proboly has a draw at min prob a pair and a draw.
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Old 11-27-2008, 05:31 AM #7 (permalink)  
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 Fold hand 1.

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