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CTorode
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06-08-2007, 12:07 PM
Post subject: Stack odds for set hunting
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Am I correct in thinking that the most you should invest in a low pocket pair 22-99 is 10% of the effective stacks in a heads-up pot? Just clear this up for me, I hear so many different ideas. Thanks
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XTR1000
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4-of-a-Kind
Join Date: May 2006
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stack odds depend on villians raising range and how likely he is to stack off if we hit. 10:1 is fine against tight raisers, the looser villian is raising, the better odds we need to call profitable.
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bigspenda73
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Straight Flush
Join Date: Jul 2006
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Like XTR said it is all dependent on how lightly someone will stack off when we hit our set.
Against someone that only plays AA/KK PF we can pretty much use our effective odds of hitting a set, something like 7:1.
However, against a player who play 25% of his hands PF in this manner we must consider a few factors:
A. Our position relative to the PF aggressor
B. His position and how it relates to his hand range
C. How likely he stacks off
D. How deep the stacks are
To answer you original question, you should generally not be calling off more than 10% of your stack PF with a low PP against a tight opener. Against a loose opener it might be something more like 7%.
If a loose aggressive opens in MP to 4bbs and you have 44 by all means call. Typically we should not be calling 3bets PF with PPs unless the 3better is an extremely tight player and would only do so with AA/KK. A typical 3bet might be 12% of your stack, which is borderline for calling a 7 to 1 shot.
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pokerroomace
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Full House
Join Date: May 2006
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99 is quite a good hand. you don't need set odds to be playing it.
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jyms
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Tilting Mod
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They had a huge debate on this subject and it was close to needing 15x the the raise you are calling since having just the odds to hit a set being nowhere near enough to justify the call. You need to take into account all the times you hit and don't get paid or when you hit and lose to a better hand. I will try to find the thread and link it here.
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jyms
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Tilting Mod
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http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=31291
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CTorode
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3-of-a-Kind
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Alright thanks, Trainer, you are my hero
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