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Old 12-18-2008, 09:49 PM     Post subject: Some tricky hands #1 (permalink)  
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 No reads. I think I should have bet SOMETHING on this flop. In hindsight, the turn bet was terrible and the river bet isn't getting called by that many worse hands (Maybe AQ/KQ?)

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Hero (SB) ($12)
BB ($13.25)
UTG ($16.60)
Button ($9.85)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, 9
UTG raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.90) 3, 9, 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($0.90) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $1, UTG calls $1

River: ($2.90) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, UTG raises to $4, Hero calls $2

Total pot: $10.90 | Rake: $0.50


On this one, I thought about the raise b4 I did it and liked it, then I flopped a strong hand and faced the check-minraise of death. Are the CR'ing sets? More likely to have Asx?

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Hero (Button) ($22.45)
SB ($8.35)
BB ($10.65)
UTG ($12.85)
MP ($8.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, 3
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.35, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.20) 2, 4, 5 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.20, 1 fold, BB raises to $2.40, Hero raises to $10, BB raises to $10.25 (All-In), Hero calls $0.25

Turn: ($21.70) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($21.70) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $21.70 | Rake: $1.05
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Old 12-18-2008, 09:57 PM #2 (permalink)  
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 only seeing one hand, first hand is fine, leading the flop is also acceptable.
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Old 12-18-2008, 09:58 PM #3 (permalink)  
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 Looks good assuming your plan was to c/r the flop and not be afraid to get it all in if he was going to want to get it all in.

Leading the flop and going for 3 streets of value assuming the board doesn't get ugly is good too.

I probably choose the latter more of the time since he'll likely chase a lot of flush draws or be too afraid to bet an overpair.


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Old 12-18-2008, 09:59 PM #4 (permalink)  
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 I lead flop but rest looks goot
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 I'm just unconvinced our leading range would be balanced at all
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Old 12-18-2008, 10:06 PM #6 (permalink)  
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I'm just unconvinced our leading range would be balanced at all
Could you explain what you mean?

Second hand edited in.
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Old 12-18-2008, 10:09 PM #7 (permalink)  
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I'm just unconvinced our leading range would be balanced at all
I'm just more convinced he sees a spade or an overpair in his hand or whatever and goes apeshit. Maybe giving villains here too less credit?
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Old 12-18-2008, 10:16 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I'm just unconvinced our leading range would be balanced at all
I'm just more convinced he sees a spade or an overpair in his hand or whatever and goes apeshit. Maybe giving villains here too less credit?
I don't think so, I was just going to say the same thing.

What he means, Illfavor, is he doesn't think you're going to be doing this with anything but nut hands. And if a good player notices this, it's going to be very easy for him to figure out what you have in certain spots.

I don't worry about balance until I start to see familiar faces though.


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Old 12-18-2008, 11:01 PM #9 (permalink)  
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 1 - "in hindsight turn bet was terrible". what? not betting would be terrible. also you could definitely consider donking the flop, esp in a passive game like this where it gets checked back so often, and i dont really care that much about balancing here. i think with such bad players you could probably just balance by donking non monotone flops and such so you create an aggro image in their head. they probably arent good enough to pay attention to board texture. also river is a call for sure.

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Old 12-18-2008, 11:03 PM #10 (permalink)  
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 I thought the turn bet was bad not b/c I bet, but for the reasons I did it. I slightly overbet b/c I felt I lost value on the flop and didn't think that was a good reason.
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