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Old 02-09-2005, 03:19 PM     Post subject: some random thoughts and advice requests :) #1 (permalink)  
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1st some hands I've played:

hand 1)
Q4s
I made flush on the river with A on the table. There was some raising action and I lost to the K!!!! In this case, should I antecipate the K and just call?
I mean, what are the odds? there was no pair on the table and no chance for sequence, so I lost to the only hand that could beat me.

hand 2)
QQ
the table: Q25J4 rainbow
I raised allways from the pre flop to the river, and on the river I got reraised by this guy. I thought: Only A3 can beat me, but who would pay so much for a long shot 4 on the river??? I reraised and lost to A3 unsuited!!!!
Should I have expected that someone would pay for an 11/1 chance on the river???

hand 3)
77, 1st positions.
I called, but someone raised and I folded.
Of course there was a 7 on the flop
The question is: small pairs... They suck so much! They can only be good if there is a 3 of a kind on the flop. Should I call small pairs? If so how do I play them?

some thoughts:
I lost countless times in the river to hands far worst than mine. It seems that in low limit the bad players are rewarded for bad play. I lost with QK with a Q on the table to someone with Q9 who got a 9 on the river, and this is a "good" example. I lost to some stupid bad hands with good hands because people play everything and get lucky on me.
Am I playing to strict? Should I pursue luck? Everytime I play with a subpair hand I loose to good hands, wich seems fine to me, if it worked the other way around

thx for the time and for the help,
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:29 PM #2 (permalink)  
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Hand 1: Fold this

Hand 2: tough beat,

Hand 3: you probably should have called (depending on the size of the bet)

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Old 02-09-2005, 03:39 PM #3 (permalink)  
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hand 1 - don't play. Generally, playing this type of hand will just be a leak in your game. What happens when you hit your Q on the flop? You will have second best hand most of the time. If you hit the flush, then you've gotta be concerned about the A and K high flushes beating you out, so you'll have second best hand again. Lay it down pre flop.

hand 2 - sounds like you played it pretty well. Since you were raising all the way and get reraised on the river, you gotta make the crying call at the end. If this is no limit, push your trip queens harder on the flop and turn to force the A3 to make the wrong play. If he wants to chase and draws out on you once in a while, just keep him on your buddy list and take it back from him in the long run.

hand 3 - call the pre flop raise. If you hit your set on the flop, you're in good shape. If it misses, it's an easy laydown. Gotta be willing to gamble a bit when you've got some cards.

general - (I'm assuming No Limit, since that's what I play.) When you've got a hand, push hard. If you've got KQ and a Q on the board, you've got to make the guy with Q9 make the wrong decision to stay in the hand. You make a pot size bet at the flop when you catch your Q, the guy with Q9 is gonna make the wrong call to chase his 9 to the river. If you get reraised with this bet, then you'll have to reassess your hand and consider if you're up against something like AQ. In general, push your advantages until you meet resistance.
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Old 02-09-2005, 03:48 PM     Post subject: Re: some random thoughts and advice requests :) #4 (permalink)  
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1st some hands I've played:

hand 1)
Q4s
I made flush on the river with A on the table. There was some raising action and I lost to the K!!!! In this case, should I antecipate the K and just call?
You shouldn't play this hand unless you're in the blinds. Assuming this was the case your play sounds like it was ok, but I'd have to see the history to be sure. Usually a Q high fl will hold up. How many flush cards were on the board? Did he have two of them as well? If so, this was a very very rare beat and you did absolutely nothing wrong calling on the river. (Can't comment about the rest of the hand though).

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hand 2)
QQ
the table: Q25J4 rainbow
I raised allways from the pre flop to the river, and on the river I got reraised by this guy. I thought: Only A3 can beat me, but who would pay so much for a long shot 4 on the river??? I reraised and lost to A3 unsuited!!!!
Should I have expected that someone would pay for an 11/1 chance on the river???
How much were you raising when you raised? If you were min-raising, this type of thing will happen a lot. Think of raises in terms of the pot (a big raise is bettting the pot or more; medium raise is up to 3/4 the pot; small raise 1/4-1/2 the pot...raises less that half the pot are usually not a good idea unless you have the nuts, because too many people can adequately call).

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hand 3)
77, 1st positions.
I called, but someone raised and I folded.
Of course there was a 7 on the flop
The question is: small pairs... They suck so much! They can only be good if there is a 3 of a kind on the flop. Should I call small pairs? If so how do I play them?
How much was the raise preflop? As mentioned above, unless it was huge, you probably should have called.

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some thoughts:
I lost countless times in the river to hands far worst than mine. It seems that in low limit the bad players are rewarded for bad play. I lost with QK with a Q on the table to someone with Q9 who got a 9 on the river, and this is a "good" example. I lost to some stupid bad hands with good hands because people play everything and get lucky on me.
Am I playing to strict? Should I pursue luck? Everytime I play with a subpair hand I loose to good hands, wich seems fine to me, if it worked the other way around
It sounds like part of where you're losing out may be that you're playing too passive. When you have it, you don't just want to raise enough to get more in the pot. You want to raise enough that they are making a mistake by calling, if they call. You'll commonly hear talk of "putting the hard decision on the other player." You need to raise enough that it makes their decision difficult (or it makes a fold easy). Do this only when you have the hands though. Definitely don't start trying to rely on luck. That's a losing play for sure!

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Old 02-09-2005, 04:00 PM #5 (permalink)  
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1st I want to thank for all the fast and great replys!

Regarding my 1st hand, I was on the blind big bet and I ahd at least A and another "color" card on the flop. I don't remember if I hit the flush on the flop or on the turn though.

Regarding raises, I raise what I can. that means bet on the flop and 1 raise on the turn. It's all I can do. Maybe I'm playing with very low limits and everyone chases even if they are playing bad.

Anyway, I see the point: Don't play to passive (wich I think I might do), raise the good hands, fold the bad ones (wich I sometimes don't do, trying to call blufs that obviously don't exist) and in the long run It will turn ok. Maybe I was having a bad day
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Old 02-09-2005, 04:06 PM #6 (permalink)  
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In general, push your advantages until you meet resistance.
And when I meet resistance, being a bluf or a better hand, should I call it all the way or drop it?
I seem to call too many "blufs" that are actually better hands than mine and folding when I could use a bet with a decent hand.
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Old 02-09-2005, 04:29 PM #7 (permalink)  
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In low limit, chances are they are not bluffing.
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Old 02-09-2005, 05:49 PM #8 (permalink)  
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In general, push your advantages until you meet resistance.
And when I meet resistance, being a bluf or a better hand, should I call it all the way or drop it?
I seem to call too many "blufs" that are actually better hands than mine and folding when I could use a bet with a decent hand.
It depends What's the size of their bet/raise vs pot size? What's your chances to draw out on him if you are behind? Etc, etc. This is where you make your money (or lose less). It's also the hardest part of the game. Spend your time around this forum and you'll soon get lots of answers. Good luck!
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