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pokadave
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04-03-2007, 09:00 PM
Post subject: some hands that came my way at a B&M...
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i was playing severely tight, playing only pocket pairs and AK,AQ,etc. like alot of you guys said i should play. Ring game $1/3NL 100max buyin.
so i was dealt 99, and i raise to $12, and i get 2 callers. both the callers are very loose players. the flop comes 8-5-9 with two spades. both players check to me, and i dont want to show strength on such a weak flop, so i check. turn in another 5. i got the 2nd nuts only behind pocket 5's. both players check and as do I. river is a 3 of spades, so there are 3 spades on the board. first players bets $20, and the 2nd player pushes allin with like $55. and i wait about a minute and raise allin for $110, the 1st raiser calls and flips over his flush, 2nd raiser shows like pocket jacks. i turn over my boat, and the table goes like crazy asking me why i didnt bet the flop or turn, and it made me realize my table was full of retards.
dave takes down like $290.
1.) did i play this wrong? i believe i played it right, but what would you guys have done?
hand #2)
like i said, i was playing tight, i'm finally dealt AA in EP, and i raise to $20 and i get 2 callers. 1 caller is chip leader with about $700. flop comes TT4 rainbow, and i bet $20 and chip leader raises to $40, and 3rd palyer instafolds. and i raise all-in. and he calls instantly and flips over 10-6 offsuit... so thats how i went bust.
2.) I KNOW I PLAYED this wrong, but where did i go wrong at, betting the flop so big? i put him on like QQ because $20 was a bigger raise PF on this table.
3.) could i have avoided him in anyway preflop, or was he gonna call anyways, even with a big raise preflop?
4.) did i overplay aces?
the whole night i played tight and i think i played damn good except for my misread with my last hand.
thanx for readin'
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Fnord
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04-03-2007, 09:33 PM
Post subject: Re: some hands that came my way at a B&M...
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Originally Posted by pokadave
i was playing severely tight, playing only pocket pairs and AK,AQ,etc. like alot of you guys said i should play.
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I sure as hell didn't. Certainly with 1/3 blinds you're playing too tight.
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Originally Posted by pokadave
Ring game $1/3NL 100max buyin.
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California rakes suck. If you're playing the game I think you're playing, it's only beatable at really good tables.
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Originally Posted by pokadave
1.) did i play this wrong? i believe i played it right, but what would you guys have done?
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Bet the flop or turn usually. Given the stack sizes, I think the pre-flop raise is marginally bad.
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Originally Posted by pokadave
like i said, i was playing tight, i'm finally dealt AA in EP, and i raise to $20 and i get 2 callers. 1 caller is chip leader with about $700. flop comes TT4 rainbow, and i bet $20 and chip leader raises to $40, and 3rd palyer instafolds. and i raise all-in. and he calls instantly and flips over 10-6 offsuit... so thats how i went bust.
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Got a read? Bet at least $40 on the flop. You might have been able to get away from this. Checking the flop also would have been reasonable.
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SteveO
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Full House
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Hand #1 you should have bet the flop with the set because of the presence of flush and str8 draws and you know you are playing loose folks who could have a piece. You want to bet 1/2 the pot or more to take away their pot odds. In the best case they move in on a worse hand or on their draw and you get it all in with your set on the flop. You actually got really lucky in this hand because you filled up and the river was your gin card completing the other guy's flush. 2nd raiser is a complete donky look to isolate him and play lots of pots with him later.
Hand #2 Fnord is spot on. Reraise him on the flop. If he flat calls or comes over the top you can get away from it. If you were playing super tight and your opponent was even the least bit observant your EP $20 raise screamed QQ or better. His call w/ 10 6 looks stupid but he essentially knew your hand so unless he connected on a super flop like he did he could get away from the hand easy on the flop.
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piratepeaty
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Straight
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Hand 1) is draw heavy. Bet the flop. As played the turn check is good.
Hand 2) Pushing all in lets him play perfectly. IE. on that board, he either has you crushed or he has a total bluff. He cannot bluff call.
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