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clvacva
Old 08-25-2009, 08:04 AM     Post subject: The small pots are hurting me.....Hands for review #1 (permalink)  
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So do I cbet this board vs two players. They will call with worse so do I b/f this flop. c/c does seem awful aswell.

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SB ($24.10)
BB ($9.50)
UTG ($30)
Hero (MP) ($10)
Button ($13.70)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J, A
1 fold, Hero bets $0.40, Button calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25) J, 10, 9 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($2.75) K (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $1.50, BB calls $1.50, Hero folds

River: ($5.75) A (2 players)
BB checks, Button checks

Total pot: $5.75 | Rake: $0.25

Maybe I assume everyone is too positionally aware I just assume since he is 3betting my UTG open and is raising from the blinds his range is JJ+,AK. The flop hits AK and I don't think he would be betting JJ here since I can easily have called with AK.
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($10.00)
UTG+1 ChristophNZ ($11.45)
CO JSA146 ($8.65)
BTN francisnewtn ($13.85)
SB dressforsucc ($13.80)
BB Gandalf_PK ($12.45)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, JSA146 calls $0.40, 2 folds, Gandalf_PK raises to $2, Hero calls $1.60, JSA146 folds

Flop: ($4.45, 2 players)
Gandalf_PK bets $2.50, Hero folds

Final Pot: $4.45

So do I lead into this many people. There are better Jacks in all of their ranges. So again b/f this flop? The turn bet is to get a call from a weaker jack that decided to check the flop and from a Ten or some underpair(should have done it on the flop). So since I put him on a ten and worse jacks probably don't bet that river especially with the possible c/r from the BB I decide to fold..... ok play?
$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($10.00)
UTG+1 dj tool time ($11.10)
CO startrek18 ($14.00)
BTN gamehendge22 ($10.00)
SB mathieu7 ($9.90)
BB usnret82 ($31.75)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, startrek18 calls $0.40, gamehendge22 calls $0.40, mathieu7 calls $0.35, usnret82 calls $0.30

Flop: ($2, 5 players)
mathieu7 checks, usnret82 checks, Hero checks, startrek18 checks, gamehendge22 checks

Turn: ($2, 5 players)
mathieu7 checks, usnret82 checks, Hero bets $1.30, 1 fold, gamehendge22 calls $1.30, mathieu7 folds, usnret82 calls $1.30

River: ($5.90, 3 players)
usnret82 checks, Hero checks, gamehendge22 bets $2.50, usnret82 folds, Hero folds

Final Pot: $5.90

Bad flop vs these opponents no pair is gonna fold and they may call with some overs or flush draws. The turn I just planned on c/f. On the river I just thought that any ace would have bet the turn once they hit. So I bet to get value from worse queens or some under pair likes 88 that decided to play it very passive.

$0.05/$0.1 No Limit Holdem
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($10.40)
UTG+1 AndrewGD80 ($10.05)
CO ptifiloutube ($9.65)
BTN jpsete ($14.45)
SB pash123 ($15.20)
BB Master JRS ($10.10)

Pre-flop: ($0.15, 6 players) Hero is UTG
Hero raises to $0.40, AndrewGD80 calls $0.40, ptifiloutube calls $0.40, 3 folds

Flop: ($1.35, 3 players)
Hero checks, AndrewGD80 checks, ptifiloutube checks

Turn: ($1.35, 3 players)
Hero checks, AndrewGD80 checks, ptifiloutube checks

River: ($1.35, 3 players)
Hero bets $1, AndrewGD80 folds, ptifiloutube calls $1
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ColdDecked
Old 08-25-2009, 09:09 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 1) Pot flop. You have tptk, and although you're not loving life right now, you still have to bet for value here in a multiway pot rather than let the draw come in for free. Don't c/c just because the board is gross.
2) Call flop and evaluate turn. Flop is dry so he's going to cbet most of the time regardless of his holding.
3) Wow, how did we get ourselves into this spot? Don't mess around in a 5 way pot, just bet ~$1.5 flop. As played, I would make a $1.5-$2 on the turn. Nobody bet the flop and there are draws out there, it's quite likely you have the best hand right now. Now the river, is villain dependant. The bet sizing leads me to think that he doesn't have a T, since this is a three-way pot, I feel that the villain would be more inclined to bet at least half the pot. But a J would have most likely bet the flop, especially with the draw out there. Some villains might take a stab on the flop with 2nd pair OTB.To me, this feels like a missed draw that didn't want to spend too much bluffing at the pot. Some reads/stats would be nice here.
4) This is fine.
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Sl4y3r
Old 08-25-2009, 09:18 AM #3 (permalink)  
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Hey Clvacva, Ill give this a try. I play full ring so id expect better advice to come from others.

Hand 1- I bet flop $1 bet turn, check river.
Hand 2- Hmm i probably 4bet PF but as played i may even call the flop ip and 'reevaluate' turn if he 2 barrels easy fold
Hand 3- Fold pre(im a FR nit) as played i bet flop
Hand 4- Fold pre? I probably play it the same way, maybe bet the A depending on villian
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Gobbatino
Old 08-25-2009, 09:40 AM #4 (permalink)  
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1. Bet flop, 2/3 at least. Then I c/f.
2. Depending on the 3bettor's stats and my image, I 4bet pre here a lot. On flop, depending on villain's c-bet % and his aggression factor/frequency I call sometimes, fold sometimes. (Get some reads/stats, yo!)
3. I definitely bet flop and probably turn, too, depending on how many villains are still around and stats/reads on them. River is ok I guess. Shitty spot though.
4. I'd bet turn.
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nish81
Old 08-25-2009, 09:54 AM #5 (permalink)  
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I play lower stakes than you but I'll just post fwiw.

Hand 1: I'm definitely c-betting here. For value from FDs, SDs, and also to make sure it isnt cheap for villain to draw to cards we dont like.

Hand 2: I get lost in such situations postflop, pocket pairs with an overcard. You only have 28% equity on the flop against his 3bing range, but do you have any reads on the guy? Sometimes fish will 3b with random stuff like AQ.

Hand 3: well i'd never open this UTG. if you're gonna bet a blank turn, shouldn't you bet the flop to stop it checking around?

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Old 08-25-2009, 10:15 AM #6 (permalink)  
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nish, 3bing AQ is definitely not fishy
think about it: if the guy thinks you 3b too much and you seem really aggressive and he tends to call a lot pre, you get value from hands like KQ and AJ
if you can count on him to 4b AK, QQ+ then when you flop an ace or queen you can just go with it and expect to be good a lot

hand 1: std flop cbet
hand 2: if he's a tag then I would definitely call flop and fold turn
if he has JJ/AQ he might cbet flop and try to check his hand down after you call flop
without reads it's just definitely gay
hand 3: std flop cbet
hand 4: bet turn to rep the ace, and then check river if you bet turn
as played I like a tiny 1/3 pot bet if you're going to bet, and probably c/f even more
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Old 08-25-2009, 02:31 PM #7 (permalink)  
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 if you take one thing from this thread, it's to bet flop and hand 1 and 3
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clvacva
Old 08-25-2009, 05:22 PM #8 (permalink)  
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I just get weaktight when it is multiway.
And I had no reads on the QQ hand that is why I gave him so much credit.

Thanks for the advice guys.
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