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Old 04-07-2006, 10:18 AM     Post subject: Slow play - Why not to do it. #1 (permalink)  
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Found Out the Hard way WHY NOT TO DO IT Flopped a Set of 10's A kicker and low and behold slow play Cost me. Opp rivered a straight.. Looking over it I know exactly what I did wrong. Bixi had been VERY Agro ( going all in pre-flop) With anything Ax So I had NO CLUE this would happen.

PokerStars Game #4548204252: Tournament #22659343, Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2006/04/07 - 06:04:36 (ET)
Table '22659343 1' 10-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: snoman33333 (830 in chips)
Seat 4: laidbackbigb (2745 in chips)
Seat 5: pauljm (1820 in chips)
Seat 6: Xo_Sirk_oX (2595 in chips)
Seat 8: bixi (4830 in chips)
Seat 9: tigermilkb&s (995 in chips)
Seat 10: kels2000 (1185 in chips)
laidbackbigb: posts small blind 75
pauljm: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Xo_Sirk_oX [Td Ad]
Xo_Sirk_oX: calls 150
bixi: calls 150
tigermilkb&s: folds
kels2000: folds
snoman33333: folds
laidbackbigb: folds
pauljm: checks
*** FLOP *** [2h Tc Th]
pauljm: checks
Xo_Sirk_oX: checks
bixi: checks
*** TURN *** [2h Tc Th] [Qs]
pauljm: checks
Xo_Sirk_oX: bets 300
bixi: calls 300
pauljm: folds
*** RIVER *** [2h Tc Th Qs] [Ks]
Xo_Sirk_oX: bets 300
bixi: raises 300 to 600
Xo_Sirk_oX: calls 300
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bixi: shows [As Jd] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
Xo_Sirk_oX: mucks hand
bixi collected 2325 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2325 | Rake 0
Board [2h Tc Th Qs Ks]
Seat 2: snoman33333 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: laidbackbigb (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: pauljm (big blind) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: Xo_Sirk_oX mucked [Td Ad]
Seat 8: bixi showed [As Jd] and won (2325) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 9: tigermilkb&s folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: kels2000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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Old 04-07-2006, 10:35 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 Here you have to bet the flop for the simple reason that you at the very least need to build a pot since this is a "calling pot". You don't slowplay those.
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I learned the hard way. I normally i would, But like I said Bixi had called all in Pre flop like 3 times before this so I had no reason to think other wise..
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Old 04-07-2006, 11:12 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 Sometimes shit happens you know. I just had a set hit with my 33 on the flop. Got into a 3-way all-in. Other guy had hit an overset on the flop. Meh.
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Old 04-07-2006, 11:28 AM #5 (permalink)  
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The problem with slowplaying trips is that people expect youto do it. If you check the flop and then wake up on the turn it announces you have slowplayed the trips.

The key points to remmeber about slowplaying are:

1) op will probably fold if you bet.
2) The pot should be small. Otherwise the equity you lose by giving free cards is greater than what you will win by slow playing.
3) If you check you are likely to give him the chance to catch up to a second best hand, but not to a best hand. In a small pot if you can avoid paying off the best hand, but will get paid off by the second best hand then slowplaying isnt too bad.

In this case there are 2 hearts so someone could have aflush draw, but you arent paying it off if it hits so its ok. If hes likely to call a nice bet with a flush draw then you should bet.
If not then it isnt too bad to slowplay here. If he hits the K you lose, but if he hit the A or J then he loses.

He only minraised so you probably win as much fromhim with the A or J as he wins from you with the K.

+EV IMO

Having said that, this is a SnG so you probably could use those 300 chips. I probably bet it but I dont hate slowplaying here.
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Old 04-07-2006, 12:21 PM #6 (permalink)  
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and FIY, that wasnt a set... that was trips..

AT with TTx = trips
TT with Txx = set

a set is much better for three main reasons...
1) You have a lot more outs for a full house.
2) Board looks safe.
3) Better chance of someone hitting a hand to pay you off with.

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Quote:
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AT with TTx = trips
TT with Txx = set
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Old 04-07-2006, 05:13 PM #8 (permalink)  
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 key to playing big hands...
build a big pot on early streets. Thats why slow playing doesnt work, unless of course your opps are drawing dead on the flop in which case letting them improve may help :P
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