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I haven't played online since early January and just before I was about to make a deposit large enough to give me an adaquate bankroll was when Neteller shut down. I am considering opening an ePassporte account but before I do I want to know if the fish are disappearing on Pstars. If so I may need to start playing live at the local casinos. I mostly play $5 sng's and tourneys btw. I don't like ring as much. Thanks for the help! |
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How much is an adequate bankroll? I've got a few guys on the coast (including myself) that will take your real $$$ and transfer it to your PStars account. That's how it's been going between my poker buddies. $5.50s are super fishy as usual. To ease your worries I'd recommend using the free sharkscope tournament picker to make sure you only join the 1+fish games. |
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I'd concur the games are getting tougher There's still money to be made if you're decent and you know where to look. As for 5+.5 SNGs... if you can't beat them for 30+% no matter what then you just need to improve. |
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I have found cash games to be difficult, especially 100NL. I imagine certain level SnGs will have become much harder. I know that turbos at say the $27 level are a lot harder now than they were a year ago. I haven't played a $55 SnG for a few months, but I bet those are difficult now. salsa's right though, you should probably be able to beat $5.50 SnGs. I do think that the micro stakes SnG players on Stars have become a lot better than they were back when I first started on them, though. If you like MTTs, maybe that's one place where you won't notice an immediate increase in level of difficulty. Once you get deep a few people will know what they're doing, but MTTs attract a lot of fish and some of these fish get deep and make money. I totally just rambled. Just my opinions and thoughts. Edit: this is all on Stars. |
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| cash games are onlymore difficult if your american. The rest of the web is nice and easy baby! | |||||
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| Its noticably harder but still plenty beatable. Just be nice to Lee and make sure you dont doomswitch and youll be fine. | |||||
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gabe: Ive dropped almost 100k in the past 35 days.
bigspenda73: But how much did you win?
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| I stopped playing when Netteller went out, but just had a session tonight. It could be just a bad night for me, but Full Tilt is definitely felt more difficult, even $10NL and the $5.50 S&Gs. Of course, Full Tilt has always had a rep for being tougher than the majority, but there was a nice fishy point in between party pulling out and neteller going. | |||||
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I'm just a girl, you should push.
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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| The 100NL Cash games on Stars seem very fishy to me. I'm obviously a master of all that is living and breathing. I am not a master of owning a car however, and I can't seem to get layed more than once a month. | |||||
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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| Hopefully I am just getting better but the cheap NL's on bodog have been getting more profitable for me each month since I joined there. February will be my best month. | |||||
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Bodog is incredibly fishy. Really really really fishy. If you sit down at any micro/low stakes at bodog either SNGs or ring games, you will crap yourself at how fishy they are during the evening (EST or PST). In the standard $5.50 SnGs they have 10 people a table. Within one or two orbits I can basically promise you one or two players will all-in and leave with Ax or two face cards, which basically means free money for you. That extra seat compared to PStars doesn't even factor in, it's just an extra $5 to the prize pool. |
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| the games are still incredibly juicy. (euro sites) | |||||
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Hey guys, heres what youre missing! Edit: best bit, villain in both claims to have been making a living from poker for 3 years (nice lie son) Everest Poker — Hand Details Table ID: -51154474 Play Mode: Real Money Table Name: Dili-6 Game Type: Hold'em Blinds: $0.50/$1.00 Stakes: $1.00/$1.00 Currency: USD Starting Date: 2007-02-25 GMT Starting Time: 15:02:08 GMT Seating Arrangement: Miffed22001 is at seat 1 with $100.00. raminator is at seat 2 with $145.12. skyblues is at seat 3 with $103.52. phazerz is at seat 4 with $327.49. ipokrates1 is at seat 5 with $147.84. Pfadi is at seat 6 with $297.36. Post Blinds: The button is at seat 2. skyblues posts the small blind of $0.50. phazerz posts the big blind of $1.00. Deal Pocket Cards: Miffed22001: Ks Kd raminator: -- -- skyblues: -- -- phazerz: -- -- ipokrates1: -- -- Pfadi: -- -- Pre-flop: ipokrates1 folds. Pfadi folds. Miffed22001 raises $3.50. raminator calls $3.50. skyblues folds. phazerz calls $2.50. Flop (Kh 5c Jd): phazerz checks. Miffed22001 raises $7.00. raminator folds. phazerz calls $7.00. Turn (Kh 5c Jd 3h): phazerz checks. Miffed22001 raises all in phazerz calls all in River (Kh 5c Jd 3h Qh): Showdown: phazerz shows Ah 10s. phazerz has 10s Jd Qh Kh Ah: Straight Miffed22001 shows Ad Kd. Miffed22001 has Jd Qh Kd Kh Ad: Pair Pot Summary: Total Pot: $200.00 phazerz wins $162.00. House Rake: $3.00 Everest Poker — Hand Details Table ID: -51154474 Play Mode: Real Money Table Name: Dili-6 Game Type: Hold'em Blinds: $0.50/$1.00 Stakes: $1.00/$1.00 Currency: USD Starting Date: 2007-02-25 GMT Starting Time: 14:50:37 GMT Seating Arrangement: Miffed22001 is at seat 1 with $100.00. raminator is at seat 2 with $152.40. skyblues is at seat 3 with $113.02. phazerz is at seat 4 with $212.35. ipokrates1 is at seat 5 with $152.84. Pfadi is at seat 6 with $294.86. Post Blinds: The button is at seat 5. Pfadi posts the small blind of $0.50. Miffed22001 posts the big blind of $1.00. Deal Pocket Cards: Miffed22001: Ad Ac raminator: -- -- skyblues: -- -- phazerz: -- -- ipokrates1: -- -- Pfadi: -- -- Pre-flop: raminator folds. skyblues calls $1.00. phazerz raises $4.50. ipokrates1 folds. Pfadi folds. Miffed22001 raises $14.00. skyblues folds. phazerz calls $10.50. Flop (2s 5h 5s): Miffed22001 raises $31.50. phazerz calls $31.50. Turn (2s 5h 5s 3h): Miffed22001 raises $53.50. phazerz calls $53.50. River (2s 5h 5s 3h 7s): Showdown: Miffed22001 shows Ad Ac. Miffed22001 has 5h 5s 7s Ad Ac: Two Pair phazerz shows 9s As. phazerz has 2s 5s 7s 9s As: Flush Pot Summary: Total Pot: $201.50 phazerz wins $198.50. House Rake: $3.00 |
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Pokerstars still is fishy, see here, last night PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards) Mrhappy333 ($7.15) UTG+1 ($3.70) MP1 ($9.90) MP2 ($10.10) CO ($16.55) Button ($9.55) SB ($12.90) BB ($22.80) Preflop: Mrhappy333 is UTG with  ,  . Mrhappy333 raises to $0.7, 5 folds, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold. Flop: ($1.50)  ,  ,  (2 players)SB bets $0.4, Mrhappy333 raises to $1, SB calls $0.60. Turn: ($3.50)  (2 players)SB checks, Mrhappy333 bets $1.5, SB calls $1.50. River: ($6.50)  (2 players)SB bets $2.4, Mrhappy333 raises to $3.95, SB calls $1.55. Final Pot: $14.40 Results below: SB has Jc Th (two pair, tens and twos). Mrhappy333 has Qc Qh (full house, queens full of twos). Outcome: Mrhappy333 wins $14.40. I sat down at this table with $2, when I left I had $19 |
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| im down 9 buy ins with QQ/KK/AA this week and its all on river suckouts, havent paid a set all week. | |||||
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For some reason, I find Stars always a bit harder than the other sites I play. The cheaper SNGs just seem to be tougher than, say, Party or Syndicate and the cash games are my nemesis. I rarely have a decent session at Stars, in contrast to both the other sites. Party is a cash cow for me and I rarely turn in a losing session (apart from Friday night and I blame the Shiraz for that), but I am probably break even or worse playing the $10NL games at Stars. The last session there saw me card dead for 2 hours and down over a buyin, as well as being frustrated to fuck with the slowness of the games. Even though I hate the UI at Party, it's more beatable (as far as I am concerned) and hence I am more likely to play there whilst I am trying to get my way to being rolled for $25NL. J |
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That´s why i left FTP and went back to EVP. And the donkishness increases exponential with lower limits. Do u know, if Everest offers a rakeback deal? |
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| i think the best part of the hand is how you changed your hole cards at showdown | |||||
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lol i´m looking over happy´s hand now for 5 mins.....i dont get it edit: i got it. |
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 Your showdown says one pair yet according to your hole card and the flop you should have had a set?? 
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no wonder it not compatible with PT |
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guess what the new PT patch added? |
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EVP poker rocks!!! Opp 4 bets ALLIN vs my AA WITH........ 74s WEEEEEE villian had gone allin PF about 3 times in last orbit with a full stack without SD |
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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No, the games have dried up, impossible to find any real fish in mid stakes games. ** Game ID 1233671510 starting - 2007-02-28 21:30:20 ** Julianne [Hold 'em] (2.50|5.00 No Limit - Cash Game) Real Money - Cocco_Bill sitting in seat 1 with $971.50 - Theilgaard05 sitting in seat 2 with $94.20 - jcljcl sitting in seat 3 with $708.00 - akfishing sitting in seat 4 with $625.01 - MrSkuda sitting in seat 5 with $265.85 - harry66 sitting in seat 6 with $485.00 [Dealer] Cocco_Bill posted the small blind - $2.50 Theilgaard05 posted the big blind - $5.00 ** Dealing card to Cocco_Bill: :Ah:, :Ad: jcljcl called - $5.00 akfishing folded MrSkuda folded harry66 folded Cocco_Bill raised - $17.50 Theilgaard05 went all-in - $94.20 jcljcl called - $99.20 Cocco_Bill raised - $239.50 jcljcl called - $239.50 ** Dealing the flop:  ,  ,  Cocco_Bill checked jcljcl bet - $250.00 Cocco_Bill raised - $500.00 jcljcl went all-in - $218.50 ** Dealing the turn: :Jd: ** Dealing the river:  jcljcl shows: :Js:, :Ks: Cocco_Bill shows: :Ah:, :Ad: Theilgaard05 mucks:  ,  Cocco_Bill wins $294.60 from the main pot Cocco_Bill wins $1512.20 from side pot 1 End of game 1233671510 |
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| fuckin hell cocco | |||||
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Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
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| they are still out there, the fish, that is. you just have to look a bit harder than at party. table selection, and seat selection becomes more important. but, yes, there has been a difference. nothing you shouldnt be able to handle though. | |||||
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LHE is a game where your skill keeps you breakeven until you hit your rush of random BS.
Nothing beats flopping quads while dropping a duece!
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| Funniest hand I had on stars lately is when I had KJ 200xBB deep. Another 200xBB stack gave me all his money after the flop came KKJ, and he turned his pair of 4's Q kicker. Ya that's right, Q4. All his money. | |||||
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It's not what's inside that counts. Have you seen what's inside?
Internal organs. And they're getting uglier by the minute.
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Everyone complains about FT, but there are still a lot of fish even there. Just last night: Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Holdem Ring game - Blinds: $1/$2 - 9 players - Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $196.25 UTG+1: $33.70 MP1: $263.05 MP2: $214.15 Hero: $272.75 CO: $451.40 Button: $149.70 SB: $201.85 BB: $188 Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP3 with 6  6  2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $9, 4 folds, MP1 calls. Flop: Q 9 9 ($21, 2 players)MP1 checks, Hero bets $18, MP1 calls. Turn: 6  ($57, 2 players)MP1 checks, Hero bets $30, MP1 raises all-in $236.05, Hero calls. River: 8 ($529.1, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $529.1)Results: Final pot: $529.1 Hero showed 6c 6s MP1 showed Kd Qs |
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| thats hardly a fish hand, you turned your 4 outer | |||||
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edit: I guess he's repping the 9 and trying to push me off of AQ/KK+, but the guy's 50/8/2.5 over 150 hands, I'm not giving him a lot of credit. You're right though, it isn't super fishy. |
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Ok, this one's better. I guess he put me on whiffed AK. Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Holdem Ring game - Blinds: $1/$2 - 9 players - Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $266 UTG+1: $95.45 MP1: $113.85 MP2: $129.30 MP3: $211.30 Hero: $200 Button: $219.75 SB: $53.20 BB: $140.95 Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is CO with 7 7 4 folds, MP3 raises to $6, Hero raises to $20, 3 folds, MP3 calls. Flop: 4  7 2 ($43, 2 players)MP3 checks, Hero bets $40, MP3 calls. Turn: 9 ($123, 2 players)MP3 checks, Hero is all-in $140, MP3 calls. River: A ($403, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $403)Results: Final pot: $403 MP3 showed 8c 8s Hero showed 7s 7d |
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nice little fact for this thread 25,623 hands Hands AA/KK/QQ/JJ/AK bbs/100 -3.35/ Go running bad. Edit: lol documents. KKK no goot right? Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver) Hero ($400) BB ($390) UTG ($278) MP ($400) CO ($400) Button ($200) Preflop: Hero is SB with K  , K . Hero posts a blind of $2. 1 fold, MP raises to $8, 2 folds, Hero (poster) raises to $40, 1 fold, MP calls $32. Flop: ($69) K  , 3, Q (2 players)Hero bets $120, MP calls $120. Turn: ($306) 7 (2 players)Hero calls (All-In), MP calls (All-In). River: ($797) 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)Final Pot: $797 Fish Shows AhJs ftw. |
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