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Old 02-06-2009, 12:11 AM     Post subject: Silly preflop question #1 (permalink)  
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Calling off 0.70 more out of position with QQ feels so dirty, but with the extra juice in there from the cold caller I didn't think 4betting would be good. I'm now looking to flop a set. What's the best play?

3bettor has been aggressive but this is the first time I have seen him 3bet. Cold caller got his stack before I sat down and has been quiet since.

PokerStars Game #24634982011: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2009/02/05 19:58:18 ET
Table 'Gemma IV' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: An.Alves ($14.25 in chips)
Seat 2: NB141FD ($4.70 in chips)
Seat 3: dwfarrel ($13.40 in chips)
Seat 4: IamUnwritten ($13.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Bibifokof ($23.50 in chips)
Seat 6: hottab ($23.75 in chips)
hottab: posts small blind $0.05
An.Alves: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dwfarrel [Qh Qc]

NB141FD: calls $0.10
dwfarrel: raises $0.30 to $0.40
IamUnwritten: raises $0.70 to $1.10
Bibifokof: folds
hottab: calls $1.05
An.Alves: folds
NB141FD: folds
dwfarrel: calls $0.70

*** FLOP *** [6s Ac Tc] (3.50)
hottab: checks
dwfarrel: checks
IamUnwritten: checks

*** TURN *** [6s Ac Tc] [8s] (3.50)
hottab: bets $1.10
dwfarrel: folds
IamUnwritten: raises $2.80 to $3.90
hottab: folds
Uncalled bet ($2.80) returned to IamUnwritten
IamUnwritten collected $5.45 from pot
IamUnwritten: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $5.70 | Rake $0.25
Board [6s Ac Tc 8s]
Seat 1: An.Alves (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: NB141FD folded before Flop
Seat 3: dwfarrel folded on the Turn
Seat 4: IamUnwritten collected ($5.45)
Seat 5: Bibifokof (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: hottab (small blind) folded on the Turn
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:20 AM #2 (permalink)  
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 well, given the position of the 3-bettor i think set mining is probably the only thing you can do really, because i understand nobody at 10nl 3-bets anything but AA/KK. i assume the cold caller is a big donk so normally i wouldn't fold to his weak ass bet, but i guess with the dude behind you its a fold.
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:30 AM #3 (permalink)  
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QQ is the third best hand possible. Playing it for set value in 6 max seems very weak/tight.

Without reads I like to 4 bet. However if it is the first time you have seen him 3-bet in 150 hands+ it is different.

Your thinking is why a lot of people are 3-betting like monkeys in 6-max.
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:31 AM #4 (permalink)  
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oh, 10NL- sorry my bad

Do not have alot of experience at micro.
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:42 AM #5 (permalink)  
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With the cold-caller in the middle there I'm 4-betting this every day and with stats on the 3-better making my decision from there to call or fold to a shove.

At this level you will find yourself up against anything from 99+/AJ+ I'm finding now so don't be too scared to get it in there with a decent read.

As played, you have to dump it on the turn but I'd have donked out on the flop tbh.
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