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caddie444
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01-08-2010, 08:33 PM
Post subject: Should winrate stat include rakeback + bonuses?
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Full House
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Easy question, it just occured to me that you can put in rakeback into HEM, so when ppl are calculating their winrates are they including the amount of rakeback + bonuses they are getting too?
For example I am running at ~2.5 PTBB/100 through 50,000 hands not including rakeback + bonuses, so if I were to talk about my winrate should I include them?
I'm guessing it's probably not the norm but interested to see if ppl do none-the-less.
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jyms
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no, if you include those you can't really evaluate your skill for moving up, down or what have you. There are many players that are actually losers but the RB and Bonus keeps them alive. The goal is to get better and move up, not grind the micro/small stakes for a measly profit
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win rate stats are pretty useless
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jyms
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The best part about winrate stats is people think they are a 10BB/100 winner when things are going well and are down swinging when they are not. Upswings count towards winrate and downswings don't?
'I agree though that a winrate really isn't important at all. Try this site for an example f that
http://pokervariancesimulator.fr/
for the SD ($/hand) just use the BB/100 Standard variance stat in HM and convert the BB to $. Try looking at 50 players at your winrate and variance and see where 100K hands will get you.
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Jason
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You can do whatever you want obviously, but when people talk about win-rates, they don't include bonuses or rake back. You can and should include all of that in your HOURLY rate, though, and let the cards fall where they may. If you are a slight loser in $1000NL but the massive rakeback and bonuses make you more than your 1ptbb/100 at $600NL in this hypothetical example, stay @ $1000NL if money motivates you.
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