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Old 08-27-2010, 04:27 AM     Post subject: sharing table with Nightgizmo, guidance needed. #1 (permalink)  
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 Hi All,
My first post, but have been lurking around like 1/2 year already.
Cant post HH yet, please convert this for me. Appreciate it very much.
Have the privilege sitting 1 table with Nightgizmo.
get this play wrong and Night encourage me to post, so here iam.

No read on villain , HUD not running, just sit fr several hands. Maybe Night can give villain stats. thanks first Night.
Was meant to trapping villain, thinking if i bet here worse hand wont called. so c/c line taken on flop. and leading and when he rr i was thinking that he might be bluffing, coz my flop line is weak so 3b there fr value (at least thats what i tought. lol)

Regards, Andy.


Full Tilt Poker Game #23396063294: Table Wells (6 max) - $0.02/$0.05 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:45:22 ET - 2010/08/26
Seat 1: stevieG5 ($5.43)
Seat 2: ThelittleonE0 ($8.15)
Seat 3: aggregator1 ($7.17)
Seat 4: freeexp ($7.46)
Seat 5: NightGizmo ($5.20)
Seat 6: Hiffa15siunggr ($4.58)
ThelittleonE0 posts the small blind of $0.02
aggregator1 posts the big blind of $0.05
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hiffa15siunggr [Ac Ks]
freeexp raises to $0.15
NightGizmo: yep
NightGizmo folds
Hiffa15siunggr raises to $0.40
stevieG5 calls $0.40
Hiffa15siunggr: n meeting u
ThelittleonE0 folds
aggregator1 folds
freeexp folds
*** FLOP *** [9d Ah 5c]
Hiffa15siunggr checks
NightGizmo: u2
stevieG5 bets $0.85
Hiffa15siunggr has 15 seconds left to act
Hiffa15siunggr calls $0.85
*** TURN *** [9d Ah 5c] [6h]
Hiffa15siunggr has 15 seconds left to act
Hiffa15siunggr bets $0.55
NightGizmo: what's your forum name, if you don't mind my asking?
stevieG5 has 15 seconds left to act
stevieG5 raises to $1.10
Hiffa15siunggr has 15 seconds left to act
Hiffa15siunggr: been lurking aroung there but never post. lol
NightGizmo: ahh, ok, haha
Hiffa15siunggr raises to $2.40
stevieG5 has 15 seconds left to act
stevieG5 raises to $4.18, and is all in
Hiffa15siunggr calls $0.93, and is all in
stevieG5 shows [6s 5s]
Hiffa15siunggr shows [Ac Ks]
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Old 08-27-2010, 04:37 AM #2 (permalink)  
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Stacks:
UTG freeexp ($7.46)
UTG+1 NightGizmo ($5.20)
CO Hero ($4.58)
BTN stevieG5 ($5.43)
SB ThelittleonE0 ($8.15)
BB aggregator1 ($7.17)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 6 players) Hero is CO
freeexp raises to $0.15, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, stevieG5 calls $0.40, 2 folds, freeexp folds

Flop: ($1.02, 2 players)
Hero checks, stevieG5 bets $0.85, Hero calls $0.85

Turn: ($2.72, 2 players)
Hero bets $0.55, stevieG5 raises to $1.10, Hero raises to $2.40, stevieG5 goes all-in $4.18, Hero goes all-in $0.93
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Old 08-27-2010, 04:41 AM #3 (permalink)  
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 Somebody tell NightGizmo to stop chatting about poker help sites at the goddamn tables please.
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Old 08-27-2010, 05:04 AM #4 (permalink)  
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 Sorry, not Night fault. Its me that ask him like "FTR'er Night?". Coz hv been reading here for sometime, and when sat there, his name rang bell. And he encouraged me to post this hand in the forum, when i asked him whats wrong with that play. Nice person indeed. So pls accept my apology. And thank you Pdk1010 fr the conversion. Regards Andy.
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Old 08-27-2010, 05:28 AM #5 (permalink)  
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Somebody tell NightGizmo to stop chatting about poker help sites at the goddamn tables please.
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Old 08-27-2010, 05:30 AM #6 (permalink)  
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 ok just read andy's second post. not that i commend responding to "hey rpm you're from FTR right?? are you on 2+2 or grinderschool or deuces cracked or cardrunners or any other site that helps you beat all the people who aren't using those sites?"
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Old 08-27-2010, 05:35 AM #7 (permalink)  
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btw what is OP's question?
<yaawn> "dude you need to give up childish shit like your job, any hobbies, your girlfriend, then u'll get good"


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Old 08-27-2010, 05:36 AM #8 (permalink)  
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 Did you have any reads on the UTG player? You should have -- he was super loose. So your 3bet pre makes sense for value, since he was raising trash from all positions. But you need to 3bet more. You're giving the BTN odds to call with a wide range of hands. If you 3bet to .60 or more, you would have probably pushed him out.

On the flop. you hit your hand -- why did you check? Do not slowplay hands at 5NL, especially against unknowns.

On the turn -- why did you bet so small? If you think you have the best hand here, bet much bigger.
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Old 08-27-2010, 05:44 AM #9 (permalink)  
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ok just read andy's second post. not that i commend responding to "hey rpm you're from FTR right?? are you on 2+2 or grinderschool or deuces cracked or cardrunners or any other site that helps you beat all the people who aren't using those sites?"
Hmm... yes... common sense must have failed me in that moment. It was a very specific question, though, and I know very few FTP SNs of the regular posters in this forum. But from now on, I'll just respond with "No speaka da english" when asked.

But I promise -- I don't go around talking about FTR, especially not at the tables.
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Old 08-27-2010, 06:01 AM #10 (permalink)  
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Old 08-27-2010, 06:05 AM #11 (permalink)  
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<yaawn> "dude you need to give up childish shit like your job, any hobbies, your girlfriend, then u'll get good"


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Old 08-27-2010, 06:24 AM #12 (permalink)  
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 haha nice one supa. second rule too if i recall correctly.
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Old 08-27-2010, 06:43 AM #13 (permalink)  
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 prob. 3-bet pre. As played your turn gaybet is awesome, but 3-b shove once he raises please
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Somebody tell NightGizmo to stop chatting about poker help sites at the goddamn tables please.
ban for nightgiz? tongue in cheek, i'm sure he gets it
don't raise with the straight flush bro, nobody ever gonna call that shit
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Old 08-27-2010, 07:11 AM #14 (permalink)  
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ban for nightgiz? tongue in cheek, i'm sure he gets it
Lesson learned.
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Old 08-27-2010, 07:58 AM #15 (permalink)  
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ban for nightgiz? tongue in cheek, i'm sure he gets it
Lesson learned.
Lesson learned too, and sorry nightgizmo for getting u in trouble here.


As for the hand, so my 3b shd be bigger, and on turn when i gaybet to induce a bluff, villain did min raised, should i be warned abt this min raised , whether its a bluff or made hand?


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Old 08-27-2010, 04:19 PM #16 (permalink)  
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Was meant to trapping villain, thinking if i bet here worse hand wont called. so c/c line taken on flop.
Plenty of worse in his range, at least based on nightgiz's reads. You're getting mega valuez from worse Ax and random SCs that he is stupid enough to call pre with. Take a valuebet/valuebet/valueshove line. If he raises turn get it in, like daven said, and be surprised at how often you get called when you're ahead in this spot.

I also like a slightly larger 3bet pre, maybe 3.5x or so? .50 or .55 imo
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Old 08-29-2010, 03:34 AM #17 (permalink)  
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 @pennywise, thx fr the insight. So nothing wrong here in manupulating my range (i think my line shows i am holding mid pp, right?) except i need to 3b pf bigger to .55 and shove turn. I was beaten this hand, and yes to unsuited conn. Just a cooler then. Lol regards, Andyw
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Old 08-30-2010, 11:19 AM #18 (permalink)  
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On the turn -- why did you bet so small? If you think you have the best hand here, bet much bigger.
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but 3-b shove once he raises please
Excuse me for asking, but I don't get this. Are we trying to get him to fold?
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