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SH 25NL facing all in with draw.
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DJJunkPauds
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03-21-2010, 10:27 AM
Post subject: SH 25NL facing all in with draw.
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Flush
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 301
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PF Raiser is 19/13/7.0 and cbets about 90% over 243. Did some crazy shit a couple dozen hands ago where he 3bet me with KQo, cbet the flop, and check raised the turn all in with simple over cards. The blind is 28/21/3.0, and donk-called with second pair according to my notes. I'm playing 22/18. 19/13 didn't take long to call his shove.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
SB ($27.35)
BB ($27.45)
UTG ($36.40)
MP ($25.25)
Hero (Button) ($47.65)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 9 , 8
UTG bets $1, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75
Flop: ($3.10) 4 , 10, 7 (3 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $2.50, Hero raises to $5.50, BB raises to $26.45 (All-In), UTG raises to $35.40 (All-In), Hero has odds of 2.36:1. Enough?
I'm putting the raiser on an overpair, AA everytime, and JJ occationally. A set, and maybe AT, but probably not. The shover I think has the same, but AT is more of a likely hood, 98s, 56s, 74s, slow played aces from time to time, and sometimes - rarely, mind - a bluff.
Plugging that into stove, if I'm approximating the "maybe" hands correctly, this is a breakeven call. I may as well fold for variance, no? Are these ranges reasonable?
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jaytoi
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Straight
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Haha i like how fold for variance sounds, especially if we're not hugely overrolled for 25NL. Too far behind sets and if one shows up with JJ we dont have many outs :S
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Im ready this time.
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DJJunkPauds
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Flush
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Flop raise fine 3 handed?
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spoonitnow
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Straight Flush
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I like calling the c-bet more than raising for a few reasons. First, I'd be planning to bet the turn hard if the BB folds and UTG checks to us on the turn. Second, it's really nice when the BB calls the flop since we're drawing to the nuts 3-way with 8 outs and have great implied odds with our Villains' lines. Third, if you face a line where UTG bets the turn on this board, especially if the BB comes along on the flop, his range is strong and you have high implied odds when you hit since he's probably a goofball who isn't folding often once he barrels.
The call on the end is a pretty straight-forward middle school algebra problem. You'll have to add together two EVs, the EV of you being in the main pot and the EV of you being in the side pot. It's not nearly as hard as it sounds, so give it a try in this thread and see what you get.
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