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mz102489
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01-19-2010, 01:17 AM
Post subject: set of 8s on a drawy board.
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3-of-a-Kind
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: utg
Posts: 76
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no reads on villain sry.
ok first off i think i shoulda raised the flop..at which point he could be cbetting aq+ or any pp so i think theres a fair bit value to be had raising his cbet.
on turn his calling range is like qq+ 33-55 and prob Ax
i just really dont know what to do with this river...
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
CO ($23.80)
Hero (Button) ($16.90)
SB ($4.75)
BB ($44.75)
UTG ($23.40)
UTG+1 ($32.35)
MP1 ($40.10)
MP2 ($57.55)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 8 , 8
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.75, 2 folds
Flop: ($1.85) 8 , 5 , 3 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $1, Hero calls $1
Turn: ($3.85) 4 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $1, Hero raises to $3, UTG+1 calls $2
River: ($9.85) 2 (2 players)
UTG+1 bets $5.25, [color=#666666][i]Hero?
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Outlaw
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Full House
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I call here.. if he called your turn raise with Ax or 6x then so be it, nh sir. I think you are beating enough hands here to call getting 3-1.
But yeah, definitely raise the flop.. there are likely a lot of overpairs in his range that will continue. Then its cake after that no matter what comes.
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!Luck
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Full House
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I think your raise on the turn is too small. Your are giving him great odds to draw on you.......
-!luck
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spoonitnow
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Straight Flush
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by !Luck
I think your raise on the turn is too small. Your are giving him great odds to draw on you.......
-!luck
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omg he's learning
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by Ripptyde
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Rule # 1: don't ask questions
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I have no interest in discussing strategy with a protege'. Your job is to remain quiet and listen. I have a very systematic approach that I will share with the right candidate and I promise that I will turn you into a force of nature and show you elements of the game of poker that you never knew existed.
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mz102489
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3-of-a-Kind
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luck ..your right. ~4.50-5 woulda been better sizing. particularly because the turn brought SD and FD possibilities.
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eragotte
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Flush
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i feel like this is a leak of many micro players, if the pot is 4 bucks and op bets 1.5 they raise to 4 thinking its like betting pot when really theyre raising 2.5 into 5.5...
youre raising 2 into 5 there, very bad. I dont mind flop flat with no reads though but pump the turn
edit: I'll bet $5.25 to win $9.85 that you lost this hand, i think as played rivers probably a fold 
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daviddem
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Full House
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Yes that is right: do not size your raises relative to the bet of your opp, size them relative to the size of the total pot (which obviously includes latest opp's bet)!
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jaytoi
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You probably beat enough hands there to call. He could have 99-KK and be betting it through to the river hoping no overs drop , then putting in a big value bet when they dont. 55 -33 is also possible, and 24o or 24s if its a jackal , if he put you on overs, makes sense too. bets on the straight draw, picks up a 4 for a pair and a straight draw on the turn and picks up 2 pair on the river, where he's cackling to himself thinking you wont lay down your big pair to a shove. out of the Ax hands, probably only A-2s, A-4 , A-8 and AK-AJ are betting the flop, so that's only half of the Ax hands. Probably only 6-4 would bet on the flop. So you beat enough hands there to call, probably. It's top set so you obviously have to put him on exactly Ax or 6x.
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jaytoi
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You probably beat enough hands there to call. He could have 99-KK and be betting it through to the river hoping no overs drop , then putting in a big value bet when they dont. 55 -33 is also possible, and 24o or 24s if its a jackal , if he put you on an overpair, makes sense too. bets on the straight draw, picks up a 4 for a pair and a straight draw on the turn and picks up 2 pair on the river, where he's cackling to himself thinking you wont lay down your big pair to a shove. out of the Ax hands, probably only A-2s, A-4 , A-8 and AK-AJ are betting the flop, so that's only half of the Ax hands. Probably only 6-4 would bet on the flop. So you beat enough hands there to call, probably. It's top set so you obviously have to put him on exactly Ax or 6x.
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